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Australian bushfires caused by legalising abortion - Pastor

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I see the financial crisis wasn't the only thing we caught from America
Pastor's abortion dream inflames bushfire tragedy

The Catch the Fire Ministries has tried to blame the bushfires disaster on laws decriminalising abortion in Victoria.

The Pentecostal church's leader, Pastor Danny Nalliah, claimed he had a dream about raging fires on October 21 last year and that he woke with "a flash from the Spirit of God: that His conditional protection has been removed from the nation of Australia, in particular Victoria, for approving the slaughter of innocent children in the womb".

The former Treasurer, Peter Costello, who sent a video message to an Australia Day prayer meeting organised by Pastor Nalliah this year, was outraged by his remarks on the fires.

"To link the death and suffering of bushfire victims to other political events is appalling, heartless and wrong,'' said Mr Costello, who has lost a Christian friend in the fires.

"Those who have suffered deserve ever support and sympathy. It is beyond the bounds of decency to try to make moral or politcal points out of such a tragedy.''

Pastor Nalliah said he was helping to co-ordinate fire relief, including providing trucks to distribute clothes and food and giving his own blood, but he said he must tell "the truth".

Asked by the Herald if he did not believe most Australians would regard his remarks as being in appallingly bad taste, he said today: "I must tell people what they need to hear, not what they want to hear."

He said it was no use "molly-coddling" Australians.

Asked if he believed in a God who would take vengeance by killing so many people indiscriminately - even those who opposed abortion, Mr Nalliah referred to 2 Chronicles 7:14 to vouch for his assertion that God could withdraw his protection from a nation.

"The Bible is very clear," he said. "If you walk out of God's protection and turn your back on Him, you are an open target for the devil to destroy."

In the New King James version of the Bible, 2 Chronicles 7:14 states that: "If My people who are called by My name will humble themselves, and pray and seek My face, and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin and heal their land."

He quoted a headline describing the fires as "The Darkest hour for Victoria". "A few months ago the news media should have reported `the darkest hour for the unborn', but unfortunately the `Decriminalisation of Abortion bill' went through parliament and was passed, thus making many people call Victoria `the baby killing state of Australia,' " Mr Nalliah said.

Pastor Nalliah said there may be criticism. But he said he did not send out his media statement thoughtlessly. "We spend two days working on it."

He had previously said drought and the world financial crisis could be partly blamed on human sin.
So we picked up some habits from American preachers as well huh. Well lets have a look.
The Pentecostal church's leader, Pastor Danny Nalliah, claimed he had a dream about raging fires on October 21 last year and that he woke with "a flash from the Spirit of God: that His conditional protection has been removed from the nation of Australia, in particular Victoria, for approving the slaughter of innocent children in the womb".
Danny Nalliah is obviously a selfish git who never thought of warning us since he apparently had this divine revelation several months ago. What a tosser.
Pastor Nalliah said he was helping to co-ordinate fire relief, including providing trucks to distribute clothes and food and giving his own blood, but he said he must tell "the truth".
How about the truth is, you made this shit up in a bid to attack abortion. Like the insensitive shitheads a lot of firebrand Christian preachers are, you picked on a tragedy to sell your wares.

Like someone said, religion thrives on misery. Its weakest when people are happy.
Asked if he believed in a God who would take vengeance by killing so many people indiscriminately - even those who opposed abortion, Mr Nalliah referred to 2 Chronicles 7:14 to vouch for his assertion that God could withdraw his protection from a nation.

"The Bible is very clear," he said. "If you walk out of God's protection and turn your back on Him, you are an open target for the devil to destroy."
Right, we are going to so sue God in a court of law now.

Also notice the disconnect with the next quote
In the New King James version of the Bible, 2 Chronicles 7:14 states that: "If My people who are called by My name will humble themselves, and pray and seek My face, and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin and heal their land."
Hint, if people here aren't follow God, they aren't "His people". So which is it. Either God will protect his people, or he won't. So why did God kill even those who opposed abortion?
He quoted a headline describing the fires as "The Darkest hour for Victoria". "A few months ago the news media should have reported `the darkest hour for the unborn', but unfortunately the `Decriminalisation of Abortion bill' went through parliament and was passed, thus making many people call Victoria `the baby killing state of Australia,' " Mr Nalliah said.
Victoria was the baby killing state? WTF. Western Australia has had abortion for years, I remember when I was in uni there was a big hoo huh about it and it was legalised. Mr Nalliah just shows he is a good argument for the legalisation of abortion....40 years ago.
Pastor Nalliah said there may be criticism. But he said he did not send out his media statement thoughtlessly. "We spend two days working on it."
You had several months to past the message that God told you there will be a bushfire. But I wonder how long you spent working on that, huh?

The sad thing is, I bet you we will have lots of mean spirited Christian retards posting this before long in the local paper. I mean, they only got out of the wood work during the tsunami off Indonesia.
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The 2 upsides of this

1) that it might blow a lot of the fundies out of the water as speaking out like this against "RAR! AUSSIE BATTLERS!" is a sure fire way to get yourself into trouble.

2) that maybe, just maybe someone mainstream will pick up and run with the Peter Costello link and finally kill his fucking career.
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I love how Australians blame us for their stupidity. :lol: We didn't force, or even ask you to be retarded, i.e. act like us.
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Australians are generally not very religious. That is born out by census figures for religion and actual church attendance which stands at about 10% (Last time I checked).

This guy won't get a hands off treatment that American pastors get for saying nutty bullshit.
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So wait, I'm confused. They carry out abortions with... Fire in Australia?
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Catch the Fire ministries? Geddit?
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Admiral Valdemar wrote:So wait, I'm confused. They carry out abortions with... Fire in Australia?
No. Arsonists light fires with aborted foetuses. And I bet you thought they used matches or something.

What confuses me is this line:
Mr Costello, who has lost a Christian friend in the fires.
Do you suddenly stop caring or something if your friend who gets burnt to death is a Muslim or an atheist or something?
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Lusankya wrote: What confuses me is this line:
Mr Costello, who has lost a Christian friend in the fires.
Do you suddenly stop caring or something if your friend who gets burnt to death is a Muslim or an atheist or something?
No, the religion of the victim is noted by agencies so as to identify how much compensation/aid surviving kin are to receive.
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If this dickhead wants to be taken seriously, fine. Make him an accessory to the murder of more than two hundred people.
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As there are reports that some of the fires are due to arson, maybe the anti-abortion people got carried away when torching abortion clinics and started the huge fires. The Pastor would be right, then. From a certain point of view.
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With the same right I could claim it's the punishment for Australia not permitting gay marriage.

(if they haven't already, I didn't check)

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Lusankya wrote:
Admiral Valdemar wrote:So wait, I'm confused. They carry out abortions with... Fire in Australia?
Do you suddenly stop caring or something if your friend who gets burnt to death is a Muslim or an atheist or something?
Trick question. A REAL Christian wouldn't befriend a filthy heretic. :wink:
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I suppose that it would be expecting too much for contributions to his church to start dropping?
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