This has not been a good week for Lex Nokia, by any stretch: the National Audit Office has publicly denounced it, as has the National Bureau of Investigation. While the bill itself, as I and especially Edi have commented, is not some work of the Devil set to destroy the Finnish society, its proponents have failed spectacularly at convincing the public about that and its opponents are gaining more stream thanks to remarks like this [Minister's choice of words]. And apparently the officials are not too fond of it, either (the NBI especially dislikes that the Finnish Communications Regulatory Authority and the Data Protection Ombudsman would be allowed to pass on e-mail information to foreign investigators, but not to Finnish police).Helsingin Sanomat wrote:Lex Nokia furore fuelled further by minister´s strip-search remark
National Coalition Party chairman, Minister of Finance Jyrki Katainen, says that he is not familiar with the wording of the bill for data protection of electronic communications, also known as Lex Nokia. Katainen nevertheless insists that he supports the initiative.
Debate over the controversial bill took a new turn on Thursday when Minister of Communications Suvi Lindén said in an interview in Thursday’s edition of the Tampere newspaper Aamulehti that an employer currently has the right to order a strip-search of an employee if there is suspicion that the employee is leaking company secrets.
Later, after being publicly contradicted by legal experts, Lindén conceded that employers have no such right, and said that her comment was an attempt at humour.
Katainen was asked in Parliament on Thursday if he thought that an employee had the right to demand that an employee disrobe.
“I don’t know that legislation. Lindén probably knows how to answer it best, because she made the comment”, he said.
“One would have to know the entire bill. I don’t know what this is about, and I don’t know what has been written about it in the newspaper”, Katainen added.
He also said that it is quite clear that it is not possible to order people to take their clothes off at workplaces.
Katainen saw no need for an apology. “Surely, nobody has been hurt here.”
He also said that he stands behind the proposal for the data protection law, just like the whole government. But does he still support Suvi Lindén?
“Naturally. Of course her staying on is in the hands of the National Coalition Party and certainly, she has the right to continue”, Katainen said.
Lindén herself retreated somewhat from her statement, but did not deny making it.
“Well, naturally, an employer cannot require an employee to disrobe”, Lindén said.
She described her comments as hyperbole and an attempt at humour. She insisted that her words did not result from ignorance.
“I am familiar with the legislation of my own area of administration, and I especially know the law on electronic security”, she emphasised.
She says that she was describing different ways that employers have available to them to prevent the leaking of company secrets. “It includes camera surveillance and access control, monitoring the log information of computers, monitoring copies, and monitoring the use of flash drives.”
“We have agreed with Minister of Justice Tuija Brax (Green) that along with the Data Protection Ombudsman, we will examine the impact of the law after a year.”
Prime Minister Matti Vanhanen (Centre) emphasised that it is important to be careful in setting the rights of officials and employers. He did not take issue with the Lindén’s controversial statement.
“I don’t want to overreact. I assume that after the clarifications there will be no more confusion. It is clear that the rights of the employer do not extend to that level”, Vanhanen said.
The Prime Minister stands behind the Lex Nokia bill.
“We must not be naive, when our well-being is based on intellectual property and patents, which exist in electronic form. We must not imagine that corporate espionage would not take place in Finland. It is good that there are good preventative measures that make it as difficult as possible.”
Minister sets foot in her mouth over law proposal in Finland
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Minister sets foot in her mouth over law proposal in Finland
... Or close enough. This is, in essence, a sequel to the previous thread over the infamous Lex Nokia legislation. One of our ministers (Minister of Communications) had the bright idea of trying to soothe the suspicions about the law and failed rather spectacularly; rather she has just brought more ill will towards the legislation change. The source is Helsingin Sanomat.
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Re: Minister sets foot in her mouth over law proposal in Finland
Linden always has been a moron and her misguided attempt at humorous exaggeration was guaranteed to backfire just like it did. Why the fuck can't the ministers keep their mouths shut and leave the humor attempts alone?
This thing already has enough opposition from the mouthbreathing morons that it doesn't need fuckups like this from the government. And comments like this just make the entire National Coalition party look bad, so it has larger ramifications as well. Doesn't help that the party leader, Katainen, made some really inflammatory and ill-advised comments earlier that he had to publicly apologize for. Idiots...
This thing already has enough opposition from the mouthbreathing morons that it doesn't need fuckups like this from the government. And comments like this just make the entire National Coalition party look bad, so it has larger ramifications as well. Doesn't help that the party leader, Katainen, made some really inflammatory and ill-advised comments earlier that he had to publicly apologize for. Idiots...
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Why is it so goddamned hard to get little assholes like you to admit it when you fuck up? Is it pride? What gives you the right to have any pride?
–Darth Wong to vivftp
GOP message? Why don't they just come out of the closet: FASCISTS R' US –Patrick Degan
The GOP has a problem with anyone coming out of the closet. –18-till-I-die