"Seriously, is there any reason to believe that pre-marital sex is going to affect the society in a negative manner to begin with? Any reason at all? "
Presuming there wasn't already these nonsensical belief systems in place that condemn it? Presuming it was also done safely to protect against STI's and unwanted pregnancy?
No. None that I can think of.
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Re: Colorado Legislator: I hope your baby gets AIDS, slut.
I may be kind of conservative for this board but others consider me to be a screaming liberal
That being stated, and this is directed at Ray as much as anyone, at least try to listen to the conservatives. Sometimes they do have good ideas. No, not about premarital sex, which I think they cannot learn from history.
That being stated, and this is directed at Ray as much as anyone, at least try to listen to the conservatives. Sometimes they do have good ideas. No, not about premarital sex, which I think they cannot learn from history.
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What does it even mean to be "conservative"? In 1992, "conservative" meant that you supported fiscally responsible tax increases in order to balance the budget. Today, it means "tax cuts tax cuts tax cuts ... praise God".
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Re: Colorado Legislator: I hope your baby gets AIDS, slut.
Oppose civil rights? That's one part where they are consistence about. In regards to other political issues, their only politicial position is to oppose the Democrats in all form. The Republican party is a party of politicians, not a party of statesmen.Darth Wong wrote:What does it even mean to be "conservative"? In 1992, "conservative" meant that you supported fiscally responsible tax increases in order to balance the budget. Today, it means "tax cuts tax cuts tax cuts ... praise God".
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I disagree.ray245 wrote:Oppose civil rights? That's one part where they are consistence about. In regards to other political issues, their only politicial position is to oppose the Democrats in all form. The Republican party is a party of politicians, not a party of statesmen.Darth Wong wrote:What does it even mean to be "conservative"? In 1992, "conservative" meant that you supported fiscally responsible tax increases in order to balance the budget. Today, it means "tax cuts tax cuts tax cuts ... praise God".
If you look at their record, the Repub position is to favor tax cuts over everything else.
Fiscal responsibility or social conservatism, it doesn't matter as long as they can lower tax rates for the wealthy.
IOW, they don't give a shit about anyone else or the country as a whole.
The real Repub position is 'tax cuts and damn the budget', and if anyone else gets in the way, run them over.
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Re: Colorado Legislator: I hope your baby gets AIDS, slut.
That is new. We had conservatives in the past with very different positions.Glocksman wrote:I disagree.ray245 wrote:Oppose civil rights? That's one part where they are consistence about. In regards to other political issues, their only politicial position is to oppose the Democrats in all form. The Republican party is a party of politicians, not a party of statesmen.Darth Wong wrote:What does it even mean to be "conservative"? In 1992, "conservative" meant that you supported fiscally responsible tax increases in order to balance the budget. Today, it means "tax cuts tax cuts tax cuts ... praise God".
If you look at their record, the Repub position is to favor tax cuts over everything else.
Fiscal responsibility or social conservatism, it doesn't matter as long as they can lower tax rates for the wealthy.
IOW, they don't give a shit about anyone else or the country as a whole.
The real Repub position is 'tax cuts and damn the budget', and if anyone else gets in the way, run them over.
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Re: Colorado Legislator: I hope your baby gets AIDS, slut.
Going back to the OP, I don't know why you guys are so surprised. After all, one of the tenants of Christianity is that the sins of the fathers get passed on to their sons.
Remember, ever since Adam and Eve ate the apples and got kicked out of the garden, all of humanity has been guilty of that sin ever since. It don't matter if you lived your life never committing a single sin, you're still guilty as hell for the original sin... for some reason.
This is just taking that concept and reapplying it somewhere else.
Remember, ever since Adam and Eve ate the apples and got kicked out of the garden, all of humanity has been guilty of that sin ever since. It don't matter if you lived your life never committing a single sin, you're still guilty as hell for the original sin... for some reason.
This is just taking that concept and reapplying it somewhere else.
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