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But we all knew that already.
In the wake of Rush Limbaugh challenging President Barack Obama to a debate, it has been pointed out to me that before the radio host steps up to face the president, he might want to clear his dance card of some earlier debate challenges. Perhaps he has forgotten, but Limbaugh already has a standing challenge from CNN's banisher of "bias" and "bull" Campbell Brown, to appear on the air and debate their chief business correspondent, Ali Velshi, who Limbaugh had previously maligned.

Oh, and here's some trash talk from a Democratic party operative, who writes, "Just saying...if you cant stand up to Campbell, you shouldn't be calling Rahm effeminate and calling out the President."
I find it amusing that Jabba the Hutt Rush won't step up to a debate to a fairly popular columnist on CNN but he tries calling out Obama and openly mocks Rahm. At any rate these were too entertaining not to pass on.

In other news, turns out Not all Republican figures are sucking Limbaugh's cock
(CNN) -- The cold winds of March have obviously affected the intelligence and thought processes of people who need to get their thinking straight.

The idiotic debate raging in Washington this week around Michael Steele, the newly elected chairman of the nearly defunct Republican Party, and Rush Limbaugh, a conservative icon for the past 35 years, is beyond foolish.

The battle to be the "de facto leader" of this party is akin to the question of who wants to steer the Titanic after it hit the iceberg. Who represents the party or its values is not relevant when only 26 percent of voters have a positive impression of the party at all and only 7 percent very positive, according to the latest Wall Street Journal/NBC News survey.

The Democratic Party is the reverse, with 49 percent positive. When 60 percent of the country approves of the job President Obama is doing, every Republican leader is going backward.

Republicans are not relevant. We just lost two back-to-back elections (2006 and 2008), and obviously, what we are selling, the voters aren't buying. In the midst of the most severe economic crisis in my lifetime, we have a president who is taking the country on a dramatic sea change. This is what he said he would do and he is doing it. And where are Republicans? Right now we don't have the alternative ideas, a message or, more important, the messenger.

Rush Limbaugh is not the Republican Party. If he wanted to get elected to office, he probably could have won or maybe even have gotten the party chairman job.

But why would he want that job when he makes hundreds of millions of dollars entertaining his daily listeners? Rush is one of the most important conservative voices in the country. He has the largest talk radio audience in the country (15 million weekly listeners) and has been influential in national debate for years. He will continue to be a voice a lot of people will listen to. The great thing about talk radio and cable television is you can listen or watch or turn it off if you don't like it.

Steele is a decent man who was an extremely effective advocate on Fox News. He was elected Republican national chairman by a majority of the 167 members representing the various state parties.

He was elected to run the national party, raise money, rebuild the political operation and travel across the country making speeches to state parties. iReport.com: If Obama "can't stand the heat, stay out of the kitchen"

He has stumbled out of the starting gate and obviously has not made the most favorable first impression. But he has two years in his term. He will be measured ultimately on how his party does in the 2010 elections, even though his organization does not run congressional races, U.S. Senate races or state governor races. He is not a member of Congress, a senator or a governor.

People who govern are the ones who will make the party relevant again, or not. All have to be long-term thinkers in addition to doing their daily tasks.

For the foreseeable future, the Republican Party is in the position of being the minority party. Until it nominates a candidate who can attract new voters and expand the base vote of the party, it will stay there. iReport.com: Limbaugh's challenge to Obama "no contest"

We are a party that needs ideas, new leaders and an inroad into young people and their thinking. That doesn't mean we have to abandon our old ideas or quit fighting the president's policies when we don't believe in them. But we have a lot of work to do.

Politics is a game of addition. We need to get serious and quit the silly debate about who's the more important voice. The country only has two real political parties. We have tons of problems and obviously more than one way to solve them. It's up to Republicans to become a vital party again. That means everybody's got a job to do.
Nice to see at least some Republicans are willing to call a bloated pompous gasbag drug addicted dildo cigar a cigar.
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Did you read the same article I did? From the article you quoted, it looks like he's part of the Rush Limbaugh fan club. He goes on about how important Rush is, and about how he might have won office if he'd run for it.
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Darth Wong wrote:Did you read the same article I did? From the article you quoted, it looks like he's part of the Rush Limbaugh fan club. He goes on about how important Rush is, and about how he might have won office if he'd run for it.
It sounded to me like he was saying Rush should try running for office instead of pretending to be a leader if he actually wanted to influence things, although I might have been a bit too optimistic from the first reading.
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Look at this quote:
Rush Limbaugh is not the Republican Party. If he wanted to get elected to office, he probably could have won or maybe even have gotten the party chairman job.

But why would he want that job when he makes hundreds of millions of dollars entertaining his daily listeners? Rush is one of the most important conservative voices in the country. He has the largest talk radio audience in the country (15 million weekly listeners) and has been influential in national debate for years. He will continue to be a voice a lot of people will listen to. The great thing about talk radio and cable television is you can listen or watch or turn it off if you don't like it.
He's not just sucking Rush's cock, he's deep-throating it.
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Darth Wong wrote:
He's not just sucking Rush's cock, he's deep-throating it.

Is there some particular reason you saw fit to grace us with that mental image?
I'm going to have nightmares about it, thank you very much.

I can't help but wonder why people take Rush seriously anymore. At all.

I never really took him seriously, and my dad, who's fairly conservative, and who barely agreed with him beforehand, stopped listening to him altogether when it came out that he was a fucking hypocrite who advocated hard time for drug offenders while abusing painkillers. I just can't fathom the mindset that looks at the likes of Rush Limbaugh, Bill O'riley, and Ann Coulter and thinks they can be anything other than bashit insane.
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Naturally. I mean, who else is going to be the head of the GOP? Steele? The guy who fired most of the RNC's heads and never replaced them, and whose sole contribution is looking like a retard with faux-urban talk on the TV?
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Darth Wong wrote:Look at this quote:
Rush Limbaugh is not the Republican Party. If he wanted to get elected to office, he probably could have won or maybe even have gotten the party chairman job.

But why would he want that job when he makes hundreds of millions of dollars entertaining his daily listeners? Rush is one of the most important conservative voices in the country. He has the largest talk radio audience in the country (15 million weekly listeners) and has been influential in national debate for years. He will continue to be a voice a lot of people will listen to. The great thing about talk radio and cable television is you can listen or watch or turn it off if you don't like it.
He's not just sucking Rush's cock, he's deep-throating it.
To be fair, if Rush Limbaugh wanted to run for some random office and chose the office based on how many of his listeners would vote for him, he probably could get elected. Not that it would mean anything about his leadership qualifications, but enough people listen to him to make it a possibility.
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Vehrec wrote:To be fair, if Rush Limbaugh wanted to run for some random office and chose the office based on how many of his listeners would vote for him, he probably could get elected. Not that it would mean anything about his leadership qualifications, but enough people listen to him to make it a possibility.
He could get elected to the House, if he picked the right district, and he could even be a Senator if he was a resident of certain states (Oklahoma, for example). But most places, no way. All his opponent would have to do is pick the highlights from his radio career, like the time he said we should have given a Congressional Medal of Honor to the guy who shot Martin Luther King Jr., or when he said slavery was actually a good thing. In common with most other Right Wing media personalities, he would also do really badly in public debates. If you look at these people (Limbaugh, Hannity, Coulter, O'Reilly, Beck, and so on) the two common threads is that they are abrasive, bullying, and not very intelligent or articulate. In a moderated debate setting, they'd fall apart.

Thus I find Limbaugh's desire to debate Barack Obama hilarious for two reasons.

One, he seems to believe that it is reasonable for the President of the United States of America to take time away from guiding the nation through a serious crisis, to debate a talk radio personality who has no official status in the Republican Party and has never been elected to any office.

Two, can you even imagine what this debate would look like? In one corner, the most charismatic politician in the world today, who is also an extremely skilled and compelling orator, who is as intellectually formidable as any president we've had in a hundred years. In the other corner, a talk radio host who evidently flunked every class he took in two semesters at college, who is well known for his ignorance (regularly making statements that are categorically false on his radio show), and whose debate range is limited to blustering, and who incidentally looks like shit on camera. Just picture that televised debate. Instant classic.
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Kennedy vs. Nixon all over again.

But with Limbaugh coming out much, much worse than Nixon.
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Kanastrous wrote:Kennedy vs. Nixon all over again.

But with Limbaugh coming out much, much worse than Nixon.
Nixon always stood out as a cunning bastard even among politicians, and there is the fabled fact that radio listeners who couldn't see how untrustworthy he looked thought he won that debate. What we're talking about is best described as a combination of the image gap of Kennedy vs. Nixon, the intelligence gap of Quayle vs. Bentsen, and the charisma gap of Cheney vs. Edwards.
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I'm not suprised that Rush would decline the debate. Any time he goes on another show other than his there seems to be disasterous results for him. I remember when he had a stint as an NFL analyst on ESPN...it wasn't pretty.
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Rush will never have the balls to appear on any venue he doesn't control. The last three times he did, he got his ass handed to him. David Letterman made a complete fool of the man on his show back in 1994 or thereabouts, and several years eariler, the only way he was able to finish his allotted time on Pat Sajak's talk show was to have the studio audience cleared out of the hall. Quite a spectacle to see Herr Limbaugh and Sajak in an empty TV studio. The director made sure to start that next segment with a wide-shot to punctuate the point that Sajak was holding down a show with a crybaby and a coward who couldn't hack it with a room full of people who weren't willing to take his bullshit and made no bones about shoving it back down his throat.

The one thing to remember about Rush: he's nothing but a schoolyard bully, and all bullies are cowards.
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Patrick Degan wrote:David Letterman made a complete fool of the man on his show back in 1994 or thereabouts, and several years eariler, the only way he was able to finish his allotted time on Pat Sajak's talk show was to have the studio audience cleared out of the hall.
Here's the video where he totally loses control of the audience on Sajak's show: Youtube
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Did you read the same article I did? From the article you quoted, it looks like he's part of the Rush Limbaugh fan club. He goes on about how important Rush is, and about how he might have won office if he'd run for it.
Did you?

As a self-described logical individual, what information did you need to make your determination of the author's undying love for Limbaugh? Was it the factually correct data about his position?

The fact that the author did not explicitly malign Limbaugh does not make him the man's top cheerleader. Instead, the author denied that Limbaugh was equivalent to the Party, or that he was even its "messenger," which is what you have suggested on another thread that Limbaugh essentially amounts to in the eyes of most Republicans.
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What are you, fucking retarded? He said that he thought Limbaugh could have become Republican party chairman. In what parallel universe does that equate to a denial of the connection between him and the Republican party?
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What are you, fucking retarded? He said that he thought Limbaugh could have become Republican party chairman. In what parallel universe does that equate to a denial of the connection between him and the Republican party?
A function of his potential ability to use his radio show as a pulpit. That isn't "sucking dick" -- it's speaking to the value of strong media presence.

He explicitly rejects Limbaugh as either personification of the Republican Party, or its "messenger."

And what is this strawman, "denial of a connection?" Nobody in their right mind would say that Limbaugh isn't connected to the Republican machine. We're debating first whether the author said anything to betray personal admiration for Limbaugh, and second, whether Limbaugh is the major voice of the party. Right now, your best ammunition is that he simply didn't reject Limbaugh outright. And the numbers don't bear you out on Limbaugh's supposedly iron grip within the party -- only his ability to sling mud. If we gave him mind control over his 13 to 15 million listeners, there are still another 40 million Republicans out there. Even if we said that 10 million more would listen to Limbaugh if they could, you've got another 30 million that don't identify Limbaugh as their inspiration.
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What are you, fucking retarded? He said that he thought Limbaugh could have become Republican party chairman. In what parallel universe does that equate to a denial of the connection between him and the Republican party?
A function of his potential ability to use his radio show as a pulpit. That isn't "sucking dick" -- it's speaking to the value of strong media presence.

He explicitly rejects Limbaugh as either personification of the Republican Party, or its "messenger."
By saying that Jabba could have become Republican Party chairman if he wanted to, and that the only reason he didn't do it was that he could make more money doing his show? That's some rejection.
And what is this strawman, "denial of a connection?" Nobody in their right mind would say that Limbaugh isn't connected to the Republican machine. We're debating first whether the author said anything to betray personal admiration for Limbaugh, and second, whether Limbaugh is the major voice of the party. Right now, your best ammunition is that he simply didn't reject Limbaugh outright.
He said Jabba could have become the Republican Party CHAIRMAN, you lying shit. That's a pretty long goddamned walk from "simply didn't reject Jabba outright". You're seizing on the line where he says Jabba is not the walking personification of the Republican Party and acting as if that somehow means I'm wrong about how Jabba is a fair representation of what Republicans and conservatives in America tend to think. From the same article where he says Jabba could have become Republican Party chairman and that "Rush is one of the most important conservative voices in the country."
And the numbers don't bear you out on Limbaugh's supposedly iron grip within the party -- only his ability to sling mud. If we gave him mind control over his 13 to 15 million listeners, there are still another 40 million Republicans out there. Even if we said that 10 million more would listen to Limbaugh if they could, you've got another 30 million that don't identify Limbaugh as their inspiration.
What a load of horseshit. Now you're assuming that 100% of Republicans who don't listen to Limbaugh's show must automatically disagree with him.
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Soooo let me get this straight, Axis Kast, are you trying to defend his double speak? Because the way I look at it, he tried not to appear to be sucking Limbaugh's cock, while actually sucking it at the same time.
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By saying that Jabba could have become Republican Party chairman if he wanted to, and that the only reason he didn't do it was that he could make more money doing his show? That's some rejection.
Acknowledging somebody's ability to mount successful campaigns for office, public or appointed, is not synonymous with endorsement. You know this.
He said Jabba could have become the Republican Party CHAIRMAN, you lying shit. That's a pretty long goddamned walk from "simply didn't reject Jabba outright".
That was a statement that he believed reflected the fact of Limbaugh's celebrity and money, you moron, not a fucking endorsement.
You're seizing on the line where he says Jabba is not the walking personification of the Republican Party and acting as if that somehow means I'm wrong about how Jabba is a fair representation of what Republicans and conservatives in America tend to think. From the same article where he says Jabba could have become Republican Party chairman and that "Rush is one of the most important conservative voices in the country."
You're confusing important with representative.

While many Republicans may agree with Rush Limbaugh, you have no hard fact to substantiate your claim that Limbaugh actually speaks for anybody.

The best proxy for agreement with Limbaugh is patronage of his radio show. Failure to reject Limbaugh outright is not evidence of agreement with his positions. Admitting that Limbaugh could mount a political challenge to a Democratic candidate in a run for some kind of public office is not evidence of agreement with his positions. Ross Perot was an important figure in the 1992 presidential campaign. There. I said it. Now, does that mean that I agree with Ross Perot? That I'm sucking his cock?
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By saying that Jabba could have become Republican Party chairman if he wanted to, and that the only reason he didn't do it was that he could make more money doing his show? That's some rejection.
Acknowledging somebody's ability to mount successful campaigns for office, public or appointed, is not synonymous with endorsement. You know this.
But it is an assessment of popularity within the target demographic, which is what we're talking about. You're just shifting goalposts as usual.
That was a statement that he believed reflected the fact of Limbaugh's celebrity and money, you moron, not a fucking endorsement.
I love the way you totally ignore the part of the statement where he says Jabba could actually win the chairmanship, and act as if the statement was entirely concerned with Jabba's celebrity. You wear your dishonesty proudly.
You're confusing important with representative.
No, YOU are confusing "he could have been chairman" with "he's just a celebrity".
While many Republicans may agree with Rush Limbaugh, you have no hard fact to substantiate your claim that Limbaugh actually speaks for anybody.
Hair-splitting.
The best proxy for agreement with Limbaugh is patronage of his radio show. Failure to reject Limbaugh outright is not evidence of agreement with his positions.
More hair-splitting. When someone says terrible things and you fall over yourself to say how great he is, it is tacit agreement.
Admitting that Limbaugh could mount a political challenge to a Democratic candidate in a run for some kind of public office is not evidence of agreement with his positions. Ross Perot was an important figure in the 1992 presidential campaign. There. I said it. Now, does that mean that I agree with Ross Perot? That I'm sucking his cock?
It would if you were a proud Republican and you said he could have become Republican chairman if he deigned to apply for the job.
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I love the way you totally ignore the part of the statement where he says Jabba could actually win the chairmanship, and act as if the statement was entirely concerned with Jabba's celebrity. You wear your dishonesty proudly.
Limbaugh only has to win locally. A state. Or a district. Or, in the case of the chairmanship, a vote of the party apparatus, which is different from the rank-and-file voters.

His ability to win then becomes a measure of his celebrity and his money, as well as an ideological litmus test about whether he is popular with a particular constituency. There's a reason it matters not just what a political says or thinks, but how much he raises.
Hair-splitting.
Demanding hard fact to substantiate a claim is "hair-splitting?" You sure have strange standards when it comes to politics.
More hair-splitting. When someone says terrible things and you fall over yourself to say how great he is, it is tacit agreement.
Are you kidding? Michael Steele called Rush Limbaugh out before he apologized, which was clearly a political move forced on him by others. Obviously, Steele thinks Limbaugh is trash. He just can't say it out loud.
It would if you were a proud Republican and you said he could have become Republican chairman if he deigned to apply for the job.
Are you kidding me? Speaking to the potential success of somebody in an election is not evidence of support, whether or not I happen to endorse their platform.

I supported McCain in the election, and there were times I was fairly sure he'd lose. Does that mean that I didn't really like McCain?
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Axis Kast wrote:Limbaugh only has to win locally. A state. Or a district. Or, in the case of the chairmanship, a vote of the party apparatus, which is different from the rank-and-file voters.
Ah, so now the "party apparatus" is also non-representative of the Republican Party. Tell me, what is representative of the Republican Party?
Demanding hard fact to substantiate a claim is "hair-splitting?" You sure have strange standards when it comes to politics.
Facts have been provided. You chose to stick your fingers in your ears and drown them out by chanting "la la la I can't hear you" at the top of your lungs.
Are you kidding? Michael Steele called Rush Limbaugh out before he apologized, which was clearly a political move forced on him by others. Obviously, Steele thinks Limbaugh is trash. He just can't say it out loud.
If he feels as you say but can't say it out loud (an ironic statement coming from someone who demands an overwhelming burden of proof the other way), then it means the Republican Party is unwilling to distance itself from Jabba, as I said. Ergo, the Republican Party wants to cozy up to him and what he represents.
Are you kidding me? Speaking to the potential success of somebody in an election is not evidence of support, whether or not I happen to endorse their platform.
In an election to head of a party that you approve of? It means that the entire party leadership supports him. But I forgot: you think that "the party apparatus" is non-representative of the party too. Keep movin' those goalposts, pal.
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It occurs to me that perhaps Kast does not understand what it means to say that a person like Rush Limbaugh could have been Republican party chairman without pointing out what a catastrophe this would have been for the Republican Party, and indeed, without even hinting at any negativity about such an outcome at all.
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Ah, so now the "party apparatus" is also non-representative of the Republican Party. Tell me, what is representative of the Republican Party?
In the same way that primaries are recognized to favor candidates more extreme than tend to win general elections.

You have a great example, in fact, in Howard Dean, who couldn't cinch the Democratic nomination when he was put against the stupendously uncharismatic John Kerry, but did end up as DNC head.
Facts have been provided. You chose to stick your fingers in your ears and drown them out by chanting "la la la I can't hear you" at the top of your lungs.
I've provided hard numbers. Even if every listener of Limbaugh's is a zombie would would vote for him at all costs, and we add to that number 10 million Republicans, that leaves 30 million Republicans who aren't listeners, and thus for whom Rush Limbaugh can't possibly speak as a proxy.
If he feels as you say but can't say it out loud (an ironic statement coming from someone who demands an overwhelming burden of proof the other way), then it means the Republican Party is unwilling to distance itself from Jabba, as I said. Ergo, the Republican Party wants to cozy up to him and what he represents.
Absolutely, they want to cozy up with him. Wanting to cozy up to someone means that you want their vote, or that you're trying to neutralize them as an opponent. It does not mean complete agreement, or subordination to Limbaugh.
In an election to head of a party that you approve of? It means that the entire party leadership supports him. But I forgot: you think that "the party apparatus" is non-representative of the party too. Keep movin' those goalposts, pal.
The RNC and DNC heads are primarily fund-raisers. Steele provides all the proof one needs that the party head is not actually all that powerful.

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you know, the whole comment about certain homophobic blowhards being closet cases, makes perfect sense with this title, unfortunatly my brain chemistry imagined something that should not be:

Rush Limbaugh in a leather Bear/Gimp outfit....
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