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Putin dick-swinging in 3, 2... (Gas Pipeline avoids Russia)

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So, how long until Putin shoots another tiger/is photographed topless/invades Georgia again? Seriously, that was my first reaction when I saw this story on the news this morning...

On the plus side, maybe this means that there can be less people freezing to death in Europe in the future because Ukraine and Russia are bickering.
Business Week wrote:Turkey, EU countries to sign gas pipeline deal

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ANKARA, Turkey

Turkey and five European Union countries will sign a landmark agreement on Monday aimed at reducing Europe's reliance on Russian energy by running a gas pipeline from the Caspian Sea region to the EU via Turkey.

The prime ministers of Turkey, Austria, Bulgaria, Romania and Hungary will sign the intergovernmental deal to allow the EU- and US-backed Nabucco pipeline to cross their territory. It will be build by a private consortium.

The projected pipeline would bypass both Russia and Ukraine, making Turkey an alternative energy route between Central Asia and the Middle East to Europe, potentially enhancing Turkey's hand in overcoming stiff EU resistance to letting it into the elite club of nations.

Turkmenistan said Friday that it is prepared to provide natural gas to the project while Azerbaijan signaled a possible contribution, raising hopes of securing enough suppliers to make the pipeline viable.

"This project can be used as a stimulant in our relations with the EU," Turkey's Energy Minister Taner Yildiz said.

Although Europe will most likely remain to some extent dependent upon Russian supplies, the project would alleviate problems such as the sudden shut-off in deliveries witnessed earlier this year. Russia provides over a quarter of Europe's gas, and 80 percent of that moves over Ukraine's pipelines. The volume of gas from Nabucco in the best case will be no more than 5 percent of Europe's consumption.

"The southern corridor is very important because it will open the door of the Caspian gas-rich region, will provide for an alternative transit route, and will increase competition in the market," EU Energy Commissioner Andris Piebalgs wrote in his blog recently.

European Commission President Jose Manuel Barroso will be present during the ceremony to underscore the importance given to the project by the EU. The United States also strongly supports the project and is represented by the top Republican on the Foreign Relations Committee, Sen. Dick Lugar of Indiana.

Nouri Al-Maliki, the prime minister of neighboring Iraq -- a potential gas supplier -- and Georgian President Mikhail Saakashvili are also attending.

The 2,050-mile (3,300 kilometer) projected pipeline would run from the Caspian Sea across Turkey to Austria and involves investments of euro8 billion ($10.26 billion), according to EU data.

Moscow, meanwhile, is pushing hard for alternative pipelines to Europe for its own gas -- the so-called Nord Stream through the Baltic Sea to Germany and the South Stream through Bulgaria. Just two weeks ago, Russia clinched a major natural gas deal with Azerbaijan to buy 500 million cubic meters of gas annually starting next year, striking a blow to European efforts to reduce energy reliance on Russia.

Turkey does not rule out Iran and Russia as future suppliers to the pipeline's 31 billion cubic-meter carrying capacity. Iran has not been invited to the ceremony because of the ongoing standoff over its nuclear program.
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I think you ought to read carefully. As far as anything, this pipe is a paper tiger; it does not even have a supplier yet and it may well be a power which Europe does not want.
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I realise that, but the fact is that this is the EU confronting Russia over their practices to do with the gas supplies in the past few years. Paper tiger or not, it's on the table and is awaiting the Russian response.
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weemadando wrote:I realise that, but the fact is that this is the EU confronting Russia over their practices to do with the gas supplies in the past few years. Paper tiger or not, it's on the table and is awaiting the Russian response.
The Russian response has already been laid down hasn't it? Two additional pipe lines that circumnavigate Ukraine. And if memory serves they've actually started building them.

This is the EU just saying, OK, if shit hits the fan we're not totally screwed since I doubt this pipeline will be able to meet all of Europe's gas demands during winter on its lonesome.
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Crown wrote:This is the EU just saying, OK, if shit hits the fan we're not totally screwed since I doubt this pipeline will be able to meet all of Europe's gas demands during winter on its lonesome.
The OP specifies that the Nabucco pipeline will not be able to supply more than five percent of Europe's gas demands even at the best of times so this indeed appears to not be the case. Still, having the option of shifting a little of the demand to Iranian, Iraqi or Georgian gas that's a plus in my mind, I harbor no particular love for those governments, but it's always better to have options than to not have them.
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