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Thoughts on common Asian currency

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http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2009 ... 723736.htm
Asian leaders ponder common currency
By South East Asia correspondent Karen Percy

Posted 6 hours 26 minutes ago
Updated 6 hours 12 minutes ago

It may never happen but the idea of having one Asian currency is being floated as part of a greater Asia Pacific community.

As leaders got together in Thailand to discuss regional issues, the idea of combining the Association of South-East Asian Nations (ASEAN) and APEC was again talked about.

The idea is to bring more countries together to cooperate on issues of regional security and trade, but it is still a long way off.

ASEAN and its partners are promising to work closely together on economic integration, climate change and disaster management.

And they discussed the long-term future of the group and the East-Asia summit forum as Australian Prime Minister Kevin Rudd outlined his ideas for creating a bigger and bolder grouping.

His idea is to meld the APEC and ASEAN groups to create a far-reaching alliance that would have security issues at its heart.

"It reflects the fact that in this dynamic region, which is so much the centre of global economic activity in the 21st century, but with still genuine and continuing security challenges in the 21st century that we must always work to improve our regional coordination and cooperation systems and institutions into the future," he said.

Japan has floated a similar proposal, going even further - pitching for a common currency amongst East Asian nations.

Thailand's Prime Minister, Abhisit Vejjajiva, ASEAN 's current president, has reinforced his colleagues' desire to build on the ASEAN framework.

"We continue to practice open regionalism and we know that with the evolving circumstances and environment of our times, our cooperation and arrangements too must evolve and we have had good responses from our dialogue partners," he said.

"I am confident that in doing so we will preserve ASEAN centrality and make vital contributions, not just to our own region but to the Asia-Pacific region and to the whole world."


ASEAN charters 'hollow'

Despite adopting a charter in the past year aimed at ending the perception of ASEAN as a country club and committing the 10 members to a more rules-based system, ASEAN is still seen as being weak and ineffective.

A case in point is the region's first human rights body, which was formally established during this weekend but it is going to be an instrument of the 10 governments, many of which are accused of abuses.

The leaders talk up their aims to be there for the people, yet input from outsiders, whether it is ordinary citizens or non-governmental organisations, into how ASEAN should grow has been poorly received, as seen in Friday's people's meeting where a number of NGOs were turned away from their own discussions.

Political commentator Thitinan Pongsudhirak says there are worries now about what happens next year when Vietnam assumes ASEAN's presidency.

"Vietnam is not going to be very receptive to civil society activism, human rights organisations and so on and this is going to cast a cloud over ASEAN because ASEAN has come out with this ASEAN charter," he said.

"Human rights provisions, the fundamental freedoms in the ASEAN charter will come under pressure during Vietnam's chairmanship.

"If Vietnam does not allow some opening, some abidance of this human rights and fundamental freedoms in the ASEAN charter, the ASEAN charter will be hollow. It will look like a joke. It will be bankrupt."

One thing will not be at issue in Vietnam and that is security. While Thailand has had to contend with threats of protests and a disruption to one summit, there is no chance that Vietnam's meetings will be disrupted by protesters or anything else for that matter.
So far its early days yet, but it raises a few questions,and I will leave it to the more knowledgable members to answer this.

a) what are the barriers to adopting this. So far I have heard this is Japan's idea, although from another article elsewhere I heard China is at least listening to the proposal. If this currency needs to be floated like the Euro, I can imagine countries which don't float or peg it to some extent, eg China, Singapore might object.

b) what are the advantages and disadvantages for various countries if they opt in. Will we find that countries with bigger economies subsidise those with smaller ones?

c) How would it affect countries which do large amounts of trade with Asia, eg Australia? Should we use this currency if it ever gets off the ground. I guess the advantage is we don't pay forex fees, but generally our currency is relatively strong compared to undervalued Asian ones, and I wonder what will happen if it does.
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mr friendly guy wrote:c) How would it affect countries which do large amounts of trade with Asia, eg Australia? Should we use this currency if it ever gets off the ground. I guess the advantage is we don't pay forex fees, but generally our currency is relatively strong compared to undervalued Asian ones, and I wonder what will happen if it does.
I heard on the news today that KRudd had forwarded the idea of an East Asian EU-equivalent (as had Japan). I can't believe I didn't actually think about whether this would lead to a common currency, and I'm not sure how you would implement such a thing. Were there any EU countries prior to the introduction of the Euro which had really lopsided exchange rates (sort of like the 1 AUD = 100 yen situation)?
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Ford Prefect wrote:
mr friendly guy wrote:c) How would it affect countries which do large amounts of trade with Asia, eg Australia? Should we use this currency if it ever gets off the ground. I guess the advantage is we don't pay forex fees, but generally our currency is relatively strong compared to undervalued Asian ones, and I wonder what will happen if it does.
I heard on the news today that KRudd had forwarded the idea of an East Asian EU-equivalent (as had Japan). I can't believe I didn't actually think about whether this would lead to a common currency, and I'm not sure how you would implement such a thing. Were there any EU countries prior to the introduction of the Euro which had really lopsided exchange rates (sort of like the 1 AUD = 100 yen situation)?
Italys Lire were like 1000 Lire to 1 Deutsch Mark or something like that. But what does that have to do with anything? I mean, it´s just numbers, it´s not like a German would have earned the same amount of money in Marks as Italians in Lire. While the numbers were lopsided the purchasing power wasn´t.
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The long and short really, is that some countries within Asia do not want China to be the sole lowest common denominator in this region. Japan is simply incapable of balancing China at this point, short of a miraculous turnaround in economic fortunes. India's foreign policy isn't as coherent as many would have liked. A currency like this will likely be dominated by China, and some might not like it.

Some in the region prefer and would like the US to maintain balance vis a vis China. So whether this will go forward may hinge on those who would prefer US input.
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To put it simply..... no. At least, not in the next two decades or so, barring any fundamental changes.

The two organisation countries are simply too diverse in their economic and domestic policies for this to be anything more than another hot air balloon, as ministers struggle to make ASEAN more relevant in world affairs.
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