'Bloody Sunday' - British goverment offers full apology
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'Bloody Sunday' - British goverment offers full apology
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_ire ... 320609.stm
This is a big deal - several former members of the Parachute regiment could now face criminal prosecution.
This is a big deal - several former members of the Parachute regiment could now face criminal prosecution.
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It beggars belief that there could be an amnesty for all terrorists involved, yet the soldiers remain open for prosecution.
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We don't negotiate with terrorists ever. Except when we need to.
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That's why the British policies vis a vis Irish issues never really made sense to me.Admiral Valdemar wrote:We don't negotiate with terrorists ever. Except when we need to.
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Total waste of £200 million. I bet the 11 victims would rather that £20 million each was spent improving their local community, rather than paying lawyers and civil servants to spend a decade coming up with 'bad things happen when you send the military against armed rioters, who knew'.
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Good for Cameron. Instead of sweeping it under the rug, he apologized, unlike some other British PMs who to the end of their days refused to even admit atrocities had happened on their watch/orders.
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Re: 'Bloody Sunday' - British goverment offers full apology
Well, it turns out that negotiating with them is actually better than not. So we have a peace process, increased prosperity and autonomy, less occupying forces and less bombing. Makes quite a lot of sense in hindsight.montypython wrote:That's why the British policies vis a vis Irish issues never really made sense to me.Admiral Valdemar wrote:We don't negotiate with terrorists ever. Except when we need to.
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You can negiotate with them if they are prepared to compromise and gradually dump their weapon caches.
No one likes giving former terrorists political office or seeing murderers go free but the ends probaly justify the means in this case.
No one likes giving former terrorists political office or seeing murderers go free but the ends probaly justify the means in this case.
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Quite, although as TC27 said at least "talk the IRA to death" seems to have worked - they have been willing to compromise after all.Steel wrote:It beggars belief that there could be an amnesty for all terrorists involved, yet the soldiers remain open for prosecution.
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It's easy to compromise when you have the voting majority in your particular area of the Northern Irish Community.Teleros wrote:Quite, although as TC27 said at least "talk the IRA to death" seems to have worked - they have been willing to compromise after all.Steel wrote:It beggars belief that there could be an amnesty for all terrorists involved, yet the soldiers remain open for prosecution.
The fact of the matter is the Paras should never have been sent to Derry, they where originally serving in Belfast and went to Derry spoiling for a fight. They opened fire on a crowd full civilians many of whom where not terrorists, rather they where protesting for equal civil rights, second none of the 11 men killed where found carrying weapons and witness reports from the soldiers of being fired on from the crowd are inconsistant at best so what does that tell you.
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The whole thing was a clusterfuck, no one should deny that. What gets me is that it's taken this long to finally get a verdict and an apology for it all. I mean, I heard on the radio a couple weeks back about a Potter's Bar enquiry starting soon, and that accident was the best part of a decade ago!