MKSheppard wrote:Right now you can get a 16 x 39" shield made out of Dyneema composites that provides NIJ 0108.01 Level III protection against AK-47 or NATO Ball on only 20 lbs (4.6 psf areal density) for $4,990 MSRP.
Would you mind listing the manufacture and model number for the product you're quoting?
If you applied that material to a 26" x 48" shield, it would only weigh forty pounds instead of the 80 pounds required for a shield made out of older materials.
Secondly, if the cop is using both hands to hold the shield, instead of one hand to hold it and the other hand to hold a pistol, he can carry the weight easier.
Like I said before, Shep. I didn't say it couldn't be done or that it was physically impossible. I did say that it slows the element down and in the case of a home raid a shield only protects you from one direction. When you're entering a front door, if that door goes into the living room you have many vulnerable angles and now are stripped of your mobility.
Except that logic makes no sense.
Yeah, it does. You just don't like the answer. The logic is this. If the evidence is destroyed then all that work you put into watching the house, making buys to verify that they are selling from the house, etc just went up in smoke. Without the evidence there can be no conviction. Or in other cases without the ability to make a deal there is no getting the bigger fish.
Consider:
Drug raids generally fall into two categories:
1.) The quantity involved is small enough to be flushable. At that point, why are you even doing dynamic entry? That increases the dangers for all involved.
I've addressed this time and time again. I'll say it one last fucking time. The quanity in any given drug house is usually UNKNOWN (please reference the two other posts in which I covered this for a more detailed explanation). Therefore, the only information that we have is that there are drugs being sold out of the home. Drug dealing is currently illegal in the United States and is a felony which the police are required to investigate and arrest by law.
2.) The quantity involved is large enough to present a non-trivial problem regarding disposal, meaning it's not going anywhere any time soon. Also, the people who have the money to afford such a pile of drugs will have more than enough money to invest in protection against thieves or rival gangs, making dynamic entry riskier.
If the quantity of drugs is known then this would be doable. However, as I covered before the quantity is not known.
And your source for this is?
My source is your mom. If that isn't good enough for you then consider this. Even if all the SWAT teams in Utah had level III armor and shields it still doesn't change the realities of serving a warrant on a suspected drug house.
Weber County is rich enough to have a HAZMAT taskforce in it's sheriff's office with 33 specialist personnel devoted to that taskforce alone, enabling them to do meth lab cleanups in house, which aren't cheap. They also have a 26-man SWAT team.
That's just one county of the two that make up the Weber-Morgan Narcotics Strike Force.
Holy shit. Do you know what administrative issues means? It means the guys that control what is purchased say "NO" when asked if the department will buy LEVEL III body armor. If you're saying such equipment should be mandatory for all police departments then I completely agree. Still doesn't change the realities of serving a search warrant on a suspected drug house.
So yes, there is a serious and growing problem with cops abusing steroids. The number can't be accurately placed due to the blue wall of silence [TM], but it certainly is a non-trivial amount.
That wasn't your argument though. Your argument or what you implied it to be is that the majority of SWAT team members use steroids and are incompetent. Your evidence did not meet this standard. Thank you for your concession. HINT - If you would have said that steroids is a growing problem in law enforcement then we wouldn't be having this talk.
You may fuck off. Armchair General...