cosmicalstorm wrote:Granted my only experience mainly comes from Cops, but isn't a standard questions as soon as you make a traffic stop something along the lines of "Do you have weapons and / or drugs in the vehicle?".
No. There are no standard questions on a traffic stop.
General Schatten wrote:
Why that's just silly, that would require the officer to competently follow regulations.
Did you just imply that you know police policy, Schatten?
Cosmic Average wrote:
A disgusting display. The cop should be fired and sentenced to prison for making death threats and for threatening the woman with police brutality.
Calm down, Turbo. At the most those were misdemeanor threats. Nobody goes to prison for misdemeanors which is all verbal threats are when directed at individuals. Now, if they're terroristic threats then those are usually felonies.
Hamstray wrote:
And if it's not a woman or not such a cheaply dressed one then not? (or maybe they would just briefly stop instead of conducting a thorough search) Sounds like discrimination based on gender and or class to me.
To you, maybe. To an experience police officer with years of work in the city dealing with prostitutes and the areas they frequent it is reasonable suspicion for an investigative stop under any court in the United States.
Tanasinn wrote:
A bit part of it probably has to do with the fact that this officer got recorded threatening to murder or assault citizens and apparently forgot to "accidentally" lose the footage like usually happens when they record themselves in this manner.
I've heard this before like it is so common place but never heard it substantiated by evidence. Coincidence, probably not. At least when it comes to police threads.
Probably the guy that got pulled over took so long to finally choke out his carry notification because he was 1.) nervous at being confronted by a cop, 2.) didn't know the proper procedure, and/or 3.) was afraid the cop would start throwing a fucking temper tantrum (which, what do you know, he did!).
1 - Sure, he probably was nervous. However, the reason for being nervous is debatable. 2 - Really? He has a CCW permit which means he received training on the procedure which is not that damn complicated. "Officer, I have a CCW and I'm armed". BOOMSHAKALAKA! Done. There isn't a secret handshake...I promise. 3 - Possible. The officer was pretty aggressive with the way he was controlling the situation. Controlling movement is one thing. Controlling when someone talks is a bit overboard.
Uranium wrote:
I bet I'd go to jail if I did and said what that officer did.
I doubt it. Threats have to be very specific and direct and would make a reasonable person feel like they are in danger. "What if I did this" doesn't really count. Neither does "I'm going to put lumps on you". It has to be more like "If you walk out that door I'm going to get my gun, find you, and then I will kill you"
CaptainChewbacca wrote:
BTW, does 'relieved of all duties' mean the officer got fired, or suspended indefinitely?
I'm guessing it means he was fired. Which I think is the appropriate response because from the very start this officer was so intimidating and interupted the driver several times. That by itself isn't a big deal but then the freak out like he did when he should have known that he kind of created that situation is unacceptable. Hell, take away that atmosphere the officer created. The freak out is still not justified and is a sign of a risk to public safety. Charges probably aren't likely OR justified against the officer for reasons I stated above but he should be terminated because after this any future problems would be negligence on the departments part for not fixing an obvious future issue.
That being said. I have to agree with others. This isn't really a great example of police abuse. It kinda takes away from those that have endured actual abuse. The stop was valid. The arrest was valid. There was no excessive force. It was just very unprofessional and a warning sign.
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