Cameron: human rights? What human rights?

[Bernkastel]

Hail our glorious leader! Thank god that we have him and his party to defend us from the dastardly EU.

Eurobashing is something that works very well, so this populist move towards a British Bill of Rights is unsurprising.

[Big Orange]

Hail our glorious leader! Thank god that we have him and his party to defend us from the dastardly EU.


Eurobashing is something that works very well, so this populist move towards a British Bill of Rights is unsurprising.

The ECHR is associated with but not directly part of the EU itself. And how does the Bill of Rights differ to the Human Rights Act and is this little more than empty bluster to please the Daily Mail reading tub thumpers? I agree Cameron is a busted flush toff who's removed from reality, wasn't really popularily elected, and fronts a moribund democratic system that had become dated after WWII. But he's not quite as bad as that creepy ex-secret police goon that runs the fake Russian democracy (cobbled from the ruins of the dead Soviet Union) and it doesn't seem that President Nicolas Sarkozy cares much about the ECHR when he blanket banned the burqa. But Cameron's bad enough that he is collectively punishing the impoverished families that the August looters and rioters belonged to, setting about evicting them from their council homes.

[TC27]

Isnt the real problem that British courts have basically made absurd laws (through precedent) when applying the ECHR - 'superinjuctions' and the inability to deport foriegn criminals come to mind.

Its probaly better than it be replaced by a bill passed through Parliament so we can at least pretend our MPs are making the law not judges interpreting European law that orginated somwhere in the vast European political machinery.

[mutanthamster]

Britain is a signatory to the European Convention of Human Rights and has been since the 1950's. By this treaty the UK is bound by the judgements of the European Court of Human Rights that can overturn British court rulings. The Human Rights Act introduced nothing new into Britain.

Repealing or replacing the Human Rights Act will change nothing. The articles of the Human Rights Convention will still apply.

It is difficult to believe that Cameron would be so stupid as to not know this. All this talk of the Human Rights Act is a red herring. The only time you ought to believe what Cameron is saying is if he talks about withdrawal from the Human Rights Convention.

[Bernkastel]

... is this little more than empty bluster to please the Daily Mail reading tub thumpers? I agree Cameron is a busted flush toff who's removed from reality, wasn't really popularily elected, and fronts a moribund democratic system that had become dated after WWII. But he's not quite as bad as that creepy ex-secret police goon that runs the fake Russian democracy (cobbled from the ruins of the dead Soviet Union) and it doesn't seem that President Nicolas Sarkozy cares much about the ECHR when he blanket banned the burqa.

True, we could do worse that Cameron. But it is dissapointing that this is the kind of politician our political system produces. As for the Bill of Rights, my point is that the change is only being done to appease Europhobes. As we've seen recently, the Conservatives have been happy to make up stuff about it to get rid of it. What matters to the individuals they are appealing to with this gesture is that it is British, rather than European.