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Most common buyers of trafficking victims were law enforcement
he Ohio Attorney General’s office today released a report on human trafficking in Ohio which found that out of 328 self-identified human trafficking victims, more than one-third were trafficked while they were minors.

The victims were taken from all around Ohio, including Cincinnati. The report found that 63 percent of the victims had run away from home at least once, 59 percent reported having friends involved in selling, 47 percent were raped more than a year before being trafficked and 44 percent reported to be victims of child abuse.

In Cincinnati, the most common risk factors reported were dropping out of school and having an older boyfriend. Rape was third with 40 percent of Cincinnati victims reporting being raped.

In all of Ohio, the most common buyers for victims were law enforcement. Businessmen and drug dealers were second and third, respectively.

In Cincinnati, the most common buyers were drug dealers, followed by factory workers, then truckers.

The report highlights the severity of human trafficking in Ohio. A 2010 report by the same commission found that 1,000 American-born youth had been trafficked in Ohio over the course of the year, and as many as 3,000 American-born youth in Ohio were at risk for trafficking.

Since the 2010 report, Gov. John Kasich has signed H.B. 262 into law, which outlaws human trafficking and enforces tougher rules.

However, the commission does not believe current law is enough, and it’s pushing for more rules against human trafficking. The new rules would identify trafficking as child abuse, place a focus on arresting and convicting buyers and invest in responding to adult sex trafficking. The commission also wants a better response to youth runaways, and it wants to establish better protocols for dealing with at-risk youth, especially in correspondence with school officials.



When contacted by CityBeat, the Ohio Attorney General’s office said they have no suggestions to specifically deal with law enforcement officials, which topped the list of buyers, who are involved in human trafficking.

The report was issued by the Attorney General’s Human Trafficking Commission. It was authored by commission member Celia Williamson, who is also a professor at the University of Toledo. The full report can be found here.
After reading the report, I must clarify that cops were the most common buyers of SEX by trafficking victims. They did not actually own the victims themselves.


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First I would have to ask, how relible are those reports?

After all sexual abuse of a minor is a serious charge and thus shouldn't be considered to be certain until there's decent proof of guilt

however is this turn about to be true, lets just say there's alot of problems with Ohio cops
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The Ohio Attorney General’s office today released a report on human trafficking in Ohio
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The Ohio Attorney General’s office today released a report on human trafficking in Ohio
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from the report wrote:Every study has limitations. This study is no different. The two most prominent limitations are provided. First, a large part of the study is based on retrospective data, which is limiting in that the researcher has to rely on the memories of study subjects. Data from memories are not the most accurate type of data to collect. Second, those victims who were, at the time of the study, being forced to work in other areas across the United States were not able to have an opportunity to be a part of the study. As such, the input of these victims may have altered the information provided. The remainder of this report focuses on assessment, interventions, and recommendations based on our findings.
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There has always been a relatioship between sex workers (which include the forced sex workers) and law enforcement for as long as law enforcement and the relevant laws existed. Offering sex is one of the easiest ways to corrupt police, which is why it's always such a rampant practice: pimps offer "their" girls to cops in exchange for favors, independent prostitutes cultivate a "working relationship" to get protection ; The mafia for obvious reasons.

The biggest shock is, of course, the scale of this in Ohio, and the involvement of minors.
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After reading the report, I must clarify that cops were the most common buyers of SEX by trafficking victims. They did not actually own the victims themselves.


KS, any comments?

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Sure, I will comment.

This report indicates that a relationship exists between certain members of law enforcement and several other professions. Despite my disagreement with the articles conclusion, explained below, I do think this is something Ohio agencies should investigate to identify those members contributing to the trafficking problem and prosecuting them.

As for the claim that Ohio law enforcement is the most common buyers - The article claims a conclusion that the actual report does not conclude in its own words. In fact, the report specifically states that because the most street level workers have worked inside and outside Ohio it is unknown in which states the professions paid for the sex workers. Another variable unable to be accounted for is predators claiming to be police. See page 16 under the graph.

If you go to page 25 you'll notice that the color representing law enforcement is much lower and does not support the articles conclusion.
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I'm more interested in the "over a third of the prostitutes were minors" comment. The fact that cops are major clients isn't surprising or shocking (for the same reason that preachers have gay sex scandals). I would love to see how they got that number, though. Not that it's totally impossible, but more that this is the number is the most likely to be inflated in order to justify harsher enforcement and punishments, so it's the one that requires the most scrutiny.
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Lagmonster wrote:I'm more interested in the "over a third of the prostitutes were minors" comment. The fact that cops are major clients isn't surprising or shocking (for the same reason that preachers have gay sex scandals). I would love to see how they got that number, though. Not that it's totally impossible, but more that this is the number is the most likely to be inflated in order to justify harsher enforcement and punishments, so it's the one that requires the most scrutiny.
I'm assuming they got it from interviewing trafficking victims. Also, that number is consistent with the information provided from the three human trafficking training classes I've attended.
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There is a rather simple and sickening reason - kids are easier to break and more mallable.
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Thanas wrote:There is a rather simple and sickening reason - kids are easier to break and more mallable.
With respect, that's one of those things that sounds logical, but still begs to be proven to be true. Especially because we've been burned before as a society with people using 'think of the children' as a way to promote moral panics (See: Scare, satanic).
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Kamakazie Sith wrote:I'm assuming they got it from interviewing trafficking victims. Also, that number is consistent with the information provided from the three human trafficking training classes I've attended.
I absolutely will not state that I think the 1 in 3 number is wrong, but I will demand evidence. When considering the implications (both that a significant number of prostitutes can be safely classified as victims, and that a significant demand and/or market exists in the first place), it becomes powerful political kindling, and my opinion is that we should always be careful handling stats that can be used to fuel laws.
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The article focuses on runaways and young girls with older partners; that cuts out most of the happy grown-up population. Why would it surprise you? Have you had limited contact with the sex industry?

Tht fact that it doesn't shock you police are a major client for sex slaves frankly disturbs me. I wonder why this trade continues?
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If this report is for real, the corruption in police departments shouldn't surprise anyone. This is not to say that all police officers are corrupt, all I am saying is that any position of power usually involves the temptation of taking advantage of victims/situations. Many police officers thankfully don't allow themselves to get involved in using their position of power for evil gains. As for the underage workers, that's even more sickening. The problem always starts in the home. Kids not getting proper love/attention, structure and discipline. From there it all goes haywire.
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Before I start, let's make it clear that I am not trying to excuse the police or anyone elses behavior here. But to play devils advocate for a moment.

Say a person or even a police officer visists a prostitute. I don't know what the case is and if they are legal or not in Ohio. But reguardless, how is he supposed to know if she is willing or a slave? Unless of course she tells him. But assuming she is to scared and does not tell him anything he can't possibly know. As for age it's the same problem. It's very hard to tell say 16 year olds from 18 year olds or 14 year olds from 16 year olds etc. Especially when they dress up and put on makeup. And unlike in large parts of the world america does not have any sort of nationaly valid state issued photo ID. So the slave holders can always get her a fake drivers licence with the age changed. And the potential customer has no way of positively determining her age beyond what she and the pimp tell him. And its obviously in their interest to say she is above the age of consent.

Again, this is no excuse. But it just seems to me that the system has large underlying flaws that make it very difficult to positively avoid something like that.
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Purple wrote:Before I start, let's make it clear that I am not trying to excuse the police or anyone elses behavior here. But to play devils advocate for a moment.

Say a person or even a police officer visists a prostitute. I don't know what the case is and if they are legal or not in Ohio.
Wikipedia says it's illegal. So before you go any further, you have a police officer performing a deliberate, unlawful act.
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Stark wrote:The article focuses on runaways and young girls with older partners; that cuts out most of the happy grown-up population. Why would it surprise you? Have you had limited contact with the sex industry?
You may have misread my concern. Go back to the part where I say the current worry over child sex slaves bears a resemblance to the 'satanic ritual child abuse' scares of the 80's and 90's, and other so-called moral panics. And then refer to the part in the article where the people who gave us these numbers want to use that as motivation to push through tougher laws.

I don't have an issue with addressing child slavery as a serious problem. Where it exists, it is evil and should be stopped. What I've said consistently is that when someone quotes a horrible, emotionally staggering statistic and then says that they want to use that as impetus to push forward new laws or even new public spending, I'm going to ask you to show me your work.
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Grumman wrote:
Purple wrote:Before I start, let's make it clear that I am not trying to excuse the police or anyone elses behavior here. But to play devils advocate for a moment.

Say a person or even a police officer visists a prostitute. I don't know what the case is and if they are legal or not in Ohio.
Wikipedia says it's illegal. So before you go any further, you have a police officer performing a deliberate, unlawful act.
Are you suggesting that we should hold police up to the same rules they're supposed to enforce? You are mad, sir!
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Losonti Tokash wrote:
Grumman wrote:
Purple wrote:Before I start, let's make it clear that I am not trying to excuse the police or anyone elses behavior here. But to play devils advocate for a moment.

Say a person or even a police officer visists a prostitute. I don't know what the case is and if they are legal or not in Ohio.
Wikipedia says it's illegal. So before you go any further, you have a police officer performing a deliberate, unlawful act.
Are you suggesting that we should hold police up to the same rules they're supposed to enforce? You are mad, sir!
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You both missed his point.

The article implies these people knowingly took advantage of sex slaves instead of just a prostitute working on her own. Purple was simply pointing this out and not excusing any illegal behavior.
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No, the point was that even if they don't know they fucking a 14-year old prostitute, they're still fucking a prostitute, which is illegal. Cops should be the last people breaking the law, but in this particular case they apparently hold the largest share.
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Purple wrote:Again, this is no excuse. But it just seems to me that the system has large underlying flaws that make it very difficult to positively avoid something like that.
Its almost like making prostitution illegal is stupid and harmful! Specifically, once criminalised, there is arguably no way to make the distinction you discuss, and further it arguably doesn't matter because all the workers involved are criminals and thus in the power of their employers.
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Losonti Tokash wrote:No, the point was that even if they don't know they fucking a 14-year old prostitute, they're still fucking a prostitute, which is illegal. Cops should be the last people breaking the law, but in this particular case they apparently hold the largest share.
Was that your point? See your reply quoting Grumman and Purple made it seem like you were talking past Purple and ignoring his point. Perhaps you should have just created your own post in which case if you would have said what you did above without quoting Grumman and Purple then I would have just agreed with you.

Except about the part regarding cops holding the largest share. As I stated before and pointed out the relevant information from the actual report the article makes this conclusion that the report itself does not. See above.

Does that really matter? Only in regards to the integrity of the article. However, you're right. Cops should be the last people breaking the law especially when it contributes to a serious problem like human trafficking.
Stark wrote: Its almost like making prostitution illegal is stupid and harmful! Specifically, once criminalised, there is arguably no way to make the distinction you discuss, and further it arguably doesn't matter because all the workers involved are criminals and thus in the power of their employers.
Agreed. Selling yourself is a victimless crime. Being sold by another person is a crime with a victim. Law enforcement should be focusing on those who exploit prostitutes while society should be working on ensuring that prostitutes are able to operate safely.
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Losonti Tokash wrote:No, the point was that even if they don't know they fucking a 14-year old prostitute, they're still fucking a prostitute, which is illegal. Cops should be the last people breaking the law, but in this particular case they apparently hold the largest share.
There is such a thing as a difference between "illegal due to legislative fiat" and "heinous slavery and child abuse". The former is just illegal but not morally wrong, and the later is just plain evil. The outrage in this case should be not against the men that broke the arbitrary law but against the system that allowed things to spiral out of control the way they did.
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Purple wrote:Again, this is no excuse. But it just seems to me that the system has large underlying flaws that make it very difficult to positively avoid something like that.
Its almost like making prostitution illegal is stupid and harmful! Specifically, once criminalised, there is arguably no way to make the distinction you discuss, and further it arguably doesn't matter because all the workers involved are criminals and thus in the power of their employers.
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well hopefully the Ohio slavers took someone across state lines at some point, and thus allows the whole network to be subject to the MANN ACT...

what? the FBI founding law created by a Yellow Journelism story about people kidnapping young women from the middle states to be sex slaves in the big metropolises...
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