“Look, Afghanistan, I’m sorry to tell you, I’m old enough to remember, forty years ago, Afghanistan was arguably the most tolerant Middle East Muslim country, with a pro-Western technocratic king, with a very strong local communist party and so on. And then, we know what happened. Communist party tried to took power. They did. When they started to fail, Soviet Union intervened. Then Americans backed the Muslim fundamentalists. In other words, always bear in mind this: Afghanistan is not an old fundamentalist country that we should enlighten. Afghanistan was quite a nice, tolerant country. Its fundamentalization is precisely the result of being caught in the global politics. We, the global liberal system, generate fundamentalisms.” - Slavoj ZizekStas Bush wrote:It's one thing to dislike Iran for legitimate reasons and another thing to introduce an economic blockade "cause they bad". Or, more to the point, blocking drug cartels would not be even remotely similar to the economic blockade of Iran, Cuba, etc. Mexico's economy won't collapse due to that. In fact, these drug cartels mostly operate serving the more, uh, wealthy (if we can speak of them as wealthy) drug addicts in the industrialized North than in SA proper, right?Starglider wrote:While I personally don't like the Iranian government either, anyone opposed to the US throwing its weight around should not take this stuff at face value.
In a "poor downtrodden thirdworlder" paradigm, which I gladly embrace here, stopping the cartels would mean (1) less violence in Mexico (2) more decriminalized occupations for citizens of Mexico (3) less drugs for American junkies.
Now pardon me if I put American junkies very low on my sympathy list.
Or more to the point:
Afghanistan in the 1960s before both superpowers had a "me soldiers trample this with their boots" moment:
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As for culture, just Google "Afghanistan women". I won't show the pictures but we all know what's there.
Narco-states are bad. That's proven by practice.
HSBC: Too big to jail?
Moderators: Alyrium Denryle, Edi, K. A. Pital
Re: HSBC: Too big to jail?
'After 9/11, it was "You're with us or your with the terrorists." Now its "You're with Straha or you support racism."' ' - The Romulan Republic
'You're a bully putting on an air of civility while saying that everything western and/or capitalistic must be bad, and a lot of other posters (loomer, Stas Bush, Gandalf) are also going along with it for their own personal reasons (Stas in particular is looking through rose colored glasses)' - Darth Yan
'You're a bully putting on an air of civility while saying that everything western and/or capitalistic must be bad, and a lot of other posters (loomer, Stas Bush, Gandalf) are also going along with it for their own personal reasons (Stas in particular is looking through rose colored glasses)' - Darth Yan
Re: HSBC: Too big to jail?
I thought rural Afghanistan was always centuries behind the times, but it was the cities that were liberal.
Also, based on Zizek's wikipedia article, it doesn't appear as if Zizek is an authority on Afghan history, sociology, or culture.
Also, based on Zizek's wikipedia article, it doesn't appear as if Zizek is an authority on Afghan history, sociology, or culture.
Suffering from the diminishing marginal utility of wealth.
Re: HSBC: Too big to jail?
That second sentence needs to be memorialized for all time so that future generations can come and gaze at it in wonder and awe while children whisper to parents to ask how such a thought could come into being.
'After 9/11, it was "You're with us or your with the terrorists." Now its "You're with Straha or you support racism."' ' - The Romulan Republic
'You're a bully putting on an air of civility while saying that everything western and/or capitalistic must be bad, and a lot of other posters (loomer, Stas Bush, Gandalf) are also going along with it for their own personal reasons (Stas in particular is looking through rose colored glasses)' - Darth Yan
'You're a bully putting on an air of civility while saying that everything western and/or capitalistic must be bad, and a lot of other posters (loomer, Stas Bush, Gandalf) are also going along with it for their own personal reasons (Stas in particular is looking through rose colored glasses)' - Darth Yan