Ehh...TheFeniX wrote:You mean like the "absurdly violent" rural areas high in gun ownership but are actually low in gun crime (suicides being most of them)?
Yes, legal gun owners rarely commit crimes. That's not the issue. The issue is that the sheer number of weapons in circulation means nearly every criminal is armed, can trivially get ammunition, and that shootouts are a fact of life that you guys just...accept
But clearly this has no bearing at all on the overall climate in the US? On the attitude on law enforcement?
It's almost as if I recognize there's no one size fits all solution to the American crime problem, while still thinking it's hilarious how much of a sacred cow gun ownership is for Americans. Seriously, recently police in IIRC Virginia said they'd waive background check for handgun purchases because they were getting backlogged ; Imagine what would happen if a some alphabet agency would say the same about, say, drug testsTheFeniX wrote:Holy shit! Actual social problems that lead to violent crime that need fixing? Crazy!
The "parody of a country" comment is not a hypothesis. It's a general comment on rhethoric and attitude concerning gun ownership which is literally considered (by a large proportion of Americans!) to be a more important right than fucking health care. And then these same people crow how crime is coming down (really slowly, and with a massive prison sector to boot!) as if that proves something, anything, about their attitude towards guns?America has a crime problem: Who. Fucking. Knew? However, so high on your soapbox, you might have missed that gun ownership has skyrocketed in America. If your hypothesis (read: inane ramblings) were anywhere near true, we'd be seeing at least some form of increase in violent crime rather than the steady decrease that's been happening since the 90s. It seems that legal gun ownership doesn't have a large effect on crime either way. But don't let facts get in the way of your ranting.
If you don't think this is something straight out of a parody...then it's probably because you're one of the actors
Yeah, self-reinforcing vicious circles are funny like that, especially when your own government adds to the hilarity by essentially funnelling piles of money to people who have a vested interest in being heavily armed to fight their competition and law enforcement, too!TheFeniX wrote:I also love the back-end idea that "America is stupidly violent you stupid American. Wait, you want a gun to protect yourself? You paranoid idiot!" that seems to permeate these types of threads.
