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OK Gov. denies soldier benefits to discriminate against gays

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I think I am exactly at the character limit for the title

http://www.slate.com/blogs/outward/2013 ... o_all.html
Republican Governor Denies Benefits to All Soldiers to Discriminate Against Gay Ones

By Mark Joseph Stern

When Oklahoma Gov. Mary Fallin was sworn into office, she promised in her oath to “offend the Constitution of the United States.” Many at the time assumed it was a blunder. But as it turns out, Gov. Fallin is true to her word.

In September, Fallin vowed to prohibit Oklahoma’s National Guard from providing benefits to married same-sex couples, directly violating a Pentagon directive and a presidential decree. Now, after a Pentagon pushback, Fallin has doubled down, cutting spousal benefits for the entire Oklahoma National Guard, including straight couples. The Republican governor, in other words, would rather deny every soldier benefits than grant a few gay ones the rights they have been federally guaranteed. Her painfully mangled logic:
Oklahoma law is clear. The state of Oklahoma does not recognize same-sex marriages, nor does it confer marriage benefits to same-sex couples. The decision reached today allows the National Guard to obey Oklahoma law without violating federal rules or policies. It protects the integrity of our state constitution and sends a message to the federal government that they cannot simply ignore our laws or the will of the people.
Not to harp on the point, but this notion is so deliriously erroneous, so undeniably and doltishly wrong, that I can’t quite believe Fallin believes it herself. The military’s policy of providing spousal benefits to same-sex couples is not a gentle suggestion. It is a federal mandate, prompted by the president himself, extending from the Pentagon to each (federally funded, federally supervised) National Guard base. It doesn’t matter whether the policy violates Oklahoma’s constitution: The Constitution of the United States declares in Article VI that “the laws of the United States ... shall be the supreme law of the land,” regardless of “the constitution or laws of any state to the contrary.” By presidential decree, the laws of the United States now require spousal benefits for gay soldiers; following that order is a constitutional requirement. And the federal constitution is not something a state governor can simply toss aside when it doesn’t suit her viciously homophobic beliefs.

Fallin, however, isn’t alone in her crusade of unconstitutional bigotry. Texas, Louisiana, South Carolina, Florida, and Georgia have all resisted the new policy as well, citing similar (and similarly fatuous) concerns about their anti-gay state constitutions. I’m not sure what these states’ excuse is—aside from virulent, unpatriotic prejudice—but at least Oklahoma has a defense to fall back on. The state elected a governor who, on her very first day in office, swore “to offend” the United States constitution. We can fault Fallin for many things. But we certainly can’t accuse her of going back on her word.
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I wonder what the Federal options are in this case. It's not as simple as sending in troops like in Ole' Miss College in the 60's. How could they punish the Governor for breaking the law?
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I guess it's more important as a patriotic American to discriminate against gays than to support one's troops.
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Borgholio wrote:I wonder what the Federal options are in this case. It's not as simple as sending in troops like in Ole' Miss College in the 60's. How could they punish the Governor for breaking the law?
Personally? They can't; the Governorship comes with immunity from prosecution, just like Federal elected offices. However, if/when this nonsense is ruled unconstitutional, I believe that the state would have to reverse its decision or be technically in a state of rebellion.
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I believe the Federal Government has the power to simply nationalize(Federize? I'm not sure the verb) the Guard in this state and the others in open defiance of the orders they got.
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I think they can go to a federal facility to register their marriage just not many in Oklahoma
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Esquire wrote:
Borgholio wrote:I wonder what the Federal options are in this case. It's not as simple as sending in troops like in Ole' Miss College in the 60's. How could they punish the Governor for breaking the law?
Personally? They can't; the Governorship comes with immunity from prosecution, just like Federal elected offices. However, if/when this nonsense is ruled unconstitutional, I believe that the state would have to reverse its decision or be technically in a state of rebellion.
Regardless of the nature of her office, is she actually breaking the letter of the law? (that she's breaking the spirit of the law isn't in doubt to me) If the law just says that gays can't be discriminated against for marriage benefits, then the answer is no, because she's not actually discriminating based on sexual orientation because the marriage benefit doesn't exist for anyone anymore.
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Not about discrimination, perhaps, but it might well be illegal to deny the Oklahoma National Guard its accustomed spousal benefits. Something to do with breach of contracts, if nothing else... I don't know, I'm not an expert.
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