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GOP party of 'alternatives'

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...As long as you toe the party line.

House Republicans are pushing a new message: We have ideas too.

“I think in order to maximize our year, it’s important that we show the American people we’re not just the opposition party – we’re actually the alternative party,” House Speaker John Boehner said Thursday at a press conference kicking off a GOP strategy retreat in Maryland.

“I think Republicans have to do more to talk about the better solutions we think we have that will help the American people grow their wages, have better opportunities, get a better job – and clearly, have a better shot at the American dream,” he added.

It’s a pivot for Republicans, who want to have something to show to voters (beyond last year’s government shutdown) in this fall’s midterm elections. The party is sensitive to attacks premised on the record-low productivity of Congress in 2013, and Democrats’ labeling of the GOP as simply a “Party of No.”

The shift has been reflected somewhat since that government shutdown, which bruised the GOP politically and helped Boehner reassert authority over rank-and-file lawmakers. Since then, the House has passed a compromise budget agreement and offered final approval just this week to a new Farm Bill, a massive piece of agricultural legislation.

And Republicans are expected to mull a statement of principles on immigration reform, a major priority during this Congress and a politically-sensitive issue for the long-term health of the GOP as a whole. And House Republican leaders wrote President Barack Obama on Thursday to highlight areas of common ground in the president’s State of the Union address on which they and Democrats could work together.

To get there will require GOP leaders to conquer some familiar demons.

Republican leaders’ primary challenge involves managing the Tea Party wing of their own party. The past three years have seen repeated instances in which GOP leaders’ best attempts at advancing legislation were undermined when conservatives balked and Democrats refused to offer their support. Boehner and Cantor won’t be able to transform the GOP into the party of alternatives unless they are able to rein in their conservative flank.
And right under that news story...
House Republicans released a set of broad “standards” for immigration reform Thursday that would allow many undocumented immigrants to “get right with the law” and live legally in the United States if they meet a set of stringent requirements and if tough border security triggers are met.

A draft document obtained by NBC News on Thursday reiterated many principles already laid out by GOP leaders, including a refusal to meld any House-passed legislation with a comprehensive bill previously passed by the Senate. It also stated that “border security and interior enforcement must come first.”

But the draft also offered a potential blueprint for how most of the nation’s estimated 11 million undocumented immigrants can “come out of the shadows” and live without the threat of deportation.

“There will be no special path to citizenship for individuals who broke our nation’s immigration laws – that would be unfair to those immigrants who have played by the rules and harmful to promoting the rule of law,” the authors wrote. “Rather, these persons could live legally and without fear in the U.S., but only if they were willing to admit their culpability, pass rigorous background checks, pay significant fines and back taxes, develop proficiency in English and American civics, and be able to support themselves and their families (without access to public benefits).”

The draft does not say whether undocumented immigrants who obtain that probationary legal status will be eligible for green cards or eventual citizenship, but it does encourage a path to citizenship for undocumented children who were brought into the country at a young age.

“It is time to provide an opportunity for legal residence and citizenship for those who were brought to this country as children through no fault of their own, those who know no other place as home,” it reads. “For those who meet certain eligibility standards, and serve honorably in our military or attain a college degree, we will do just that.”

The document adds that those policy changes can’t occur “before specific enforcement triggers have been implemented to fulfill our promise to the American people that from here on, our immigration laws will indeed be enforced.”

House Speaker John Boehner presented the principles in a closed-door meeting Thursday, saying that reform is necessary for economic growth and national security.

A source in the room said that Boehner warned that the standards are "as far as we are willing to go" and that negotiations will fall apart if Democrats demand "a special path to citizenship."

Forging such legislation will be a high-wire act for pro-reform House Republicans, who are mindful that their support from Latinos will likely continue to shrink if they are perceived as jamming an overhaul of outdated laws.

A sizable block of conservatives are resisting those proposed changes, saying that such “amnesty” would be unfair to American workers and legal immigrants.


Rep. Paul Ryan joins Chuck Todd to give his reaction on the State of the Union and talk about the Republican retreat, where they will circulate a framework for legal status, but not citizenship, for undocumented immigrants.

Sen. Jeff Sessions, R-Ala., a leading opponent of the Senate-passed immigration bill that stalled in the House last year, distributed a memo to House Republicans this week outlining why the proposal would be a “hammer blow to the American middle class.”

Opponents like Sessions say that an influx of new legal workers would flood the labor market and drive up American unemployment. And some of the most strident critics of the Obama administration argue that – even if any new law included tough requirements for border security before legalization could go into effect – the federal government can’t be trusted to enforce the law."

The document released Thursday alluded to that concern, stating that “we must enact reform that ensures that a President cannot unilaterally stop immigration enforcement.”

Even if the GOP leadership proposal garners support from a majority of Republicans in the GOP-dominated House, however, it faces an additional test: whether it goes far enough for Democrats.

Many longtime Democratic advocates of immigration reform say that any proposal that bars undocumented workers from eventually obtaining citizenship – either directly or by requiring unrealistic border security criteria to be met before the citizenship process can begin -- would be unacceptable.

AFL-CIO president Richard Trumka called the draft a "flimsy document that only serves to underscore the callous attitude Republicans have toward our nation’s immigrants."

"Half-measures that would create a permanent class of non-citizens without access to green cards should be condemned, not applauded," he wrote.

Democratic Sen. Chuck Schumer of New York, a leader in the Senate's passage of a comprehensive immigration bill last year, was more optimistic.

"While these standards are certainly not everything we would agree with, they leave a real possibility that Democrats and Republicans, in both the House and Senate, can in some way come together and pass immigration reform that both sides can accept. It is a long, hard road but the door is open," he said in a statement.

President Barack Obama offered few specifics in his State of the Union address, giving Republicans a wide berth as they begin their discussions.

“If we are serious about economic growth, it is time to heed the call of business leaders, labor leaders, faith leaders, and law enforcement – and fix our broken immigration system,” Obama said. “Republicans and Democrats in the Senate have acted. I know that members of both parties in the House want to do the same.”
Hows that rebranding going, guys? Not that you're going to erase people's memories of the shutdown that easily.
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“There will be no special path to citizenship for individuals who broke our nation’s immigration laws – that would be unfair to those immigrants who have played by the rules and harmful to promoting the rule of law,” the authors wrote. “Rather, these persons could live legally and without fear in the U.S., but only if they were willing to admit their culpability, pass rigorous background checks, pay significant fines and back taxes, develop proficiency in English and American civics, and be able to support themselves and their families (without access to public benefits).”
Back-taxes they probably don't have. Further, it does nothing to stop employers from just "firing" them and picking up new illegals to do the work instead. This is because no one will spank the "good honest hard-working" American businesses that hire them, and pay them wages under the table all the while pocketing the tax money they'd otherwise have to pay.
A sizable block of conservatives are resisting those proposed changes, saying that such “amnesty” would be unfair to American workers and legal immigrants.
I quit looking at this from a "don't be a douche-bag" route and just argue what it really comes down to: money. If illegal immigrants all became legal overnight and were entitled to minimum wages, healthcare, tax reporting, etc: the problem fixes itself because there is no incentive to hire an illegal immigrant over an American citizen. Businesses don't hire illegals out of the goodness of their heart. They hire them because they work cheap, can be paid under the table, and can't report abuses to the authority without being deported.

Not to say all business exploit illegals in a horrible way, but it's still exploitation.
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Don't worry, Republicans have another exploit idea
Just use inmate labor
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Isn't Marco Rubio the one who said raising the minimum wage was harmful to the middle class? To "grow their wages, have better opportunities, get a better job – and clearly, have a better shot at the American dream" is contradictory to that previously stated belief.
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Maybe he changed his mind. Or maybe he's trying to play to blue-collar voters rather than white-collar, and there's a huge overlap between "blue collar" and "working poor."
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All anyone needs to know about Marco Rubio is that he's a fucking liar. He ran on and won his Senate seat based on the claim that he was a second generation Cuban immigrant/exile whose parents fled Cuba due to Fidel Castro's communist dictatorship. The problem is that this is an hilariously obvious lie since his parents didn't "flee Cuba" so much as "leave of their own free will" 2 years before Castro toppled Batista.

And the real reason Republicans want to legalize but not give a pathway to citizenship to undocumented immigrants is because for one, the business lobby wants a labor force of non-citizens who they can get deported at will and secondly because the vast majority of the undocumented immigrants that would become citizens would vote democratic.
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That's more a gross embellishment than an outright lie. Most likely they saw the writing on the wall and beat it while the beating was still good, rather than some dramatic midnight flight on a leaky boat his description is trying to invoke.
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