Missed this, but Daniel Ellsberg had no more idea of the data he was leaking than Manning did. This ridiculous strawman always seems to pop up but has no bearing on the value of whistleblowing.Gaidin wrote:Oh I'm well aware of that point. She'd already leaked the dirty underwear when she'd just dumped a few hundred thousand other things that he didn't have a clue about. If she's able to separate the Baghdad Airstrike and Granai Airstrike(wiki can't seem to pin down the Gitmo Bay files to him or someone else, whatever say what you want about these files) from diplomatic cables why shouldn't the military court martial her for leaking classified information even if a few of the files she leaked are whistleblowing? Damn near most of them wouldn't be. Most of them would just be dumping classified information into the hands of people not cleared to know it. Which is a legitimate crime.Thanas wrote: The larger point you are missing is that the US is pretty adept at prosecuting those who leak about their dirty underwear, but reward those who soiled it in the first place.
Kerry to Snowden: "Turn yourself in, I double dog dare ya!"
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A decision must be made in the life of every nation at the very moment when the grasp of the enemy is at its throat. Then, it seems that the only way to survive is to use the means of the enemy, to rest survival upon what is expedient, to look the other way. Well, the answer to that is 'survival as what'? A country isn't a rock. It's not an extension of one's self. It's what it stands for. It's what it stands for when standing for something is the most difficult! - Chief Judge Haywood
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