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An optimistic assessment of the situation in Iraq.

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www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-32881854
After a week of disturbing headlines, is Islamic State winning?
It depends where.
In Syria, where Islamic State (IS) captured Palmyra and is said to have murdered large numbers of people in its usual bloodthirsty fashion, it looks as though the regime of Bashar al-Assad is getting into serious trouble. Its army is no longer so effective at fighting his battles.
IS has taken full advantage of the reluctance of Western countries to come to Mr Assad's aid. It has spread, and has successfully wrong-footed the more moderate opposition groups.
In Iraq, though, the picture is different - even if it doesn't at first look like it. The loss of Ramadi revealed a disturbing weakness in the upper ranks of the Iraqi army.
In the days that followed, newspapers in a number of countries ran stories suggesting that IS was threatening to break out from Ramadi and head down the road to Baghdad, only 100km (60 miles) away.
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There wasn't the slightest truth in it. For a start, the most humiliating aspect of Ramadi's capture from the Iraqi government's point of view was that it was done by only 150 Islamic State fighters, who put 1,500 soldiers to flight.
Those 150, even though they were soon reinforced by a few hundred other fighters, were in no position to defend Ramadi and attack Baghdad as well.
Furthermore, it soon became clear that Ramadi fell because the judgement and willpower of one man, the brigadier in command of the city, had been weakened by exhaustion, and perhaps fear.
He had stayed at his post in Ramadi for months, under siege from Islamic State, and was eventually tricked into believing that IS was on the point of using immensely destructive explosive devices in the city centre. He ordered his men to get out as fast as they could.
Iraqi security forces personnel take cover during fighting with Islamic State militants in Ramadi (14 May 2015)
The US defence secretary said the fall of Ramadi showed Iraqi troops lacked the will to fight
It was clever of IS, and hugely effective; but it was scarcely a major military victory.
Islamic State is extremely good at public relations. It generates admiration and fear with each of the videos it issues - 360 within the last year, just about one a day.
The terror it generates through its gruesome execution videos does a great deal of its work for it. And people around the world believe that it is indeed carrying all before it.
By contrast, the Iraqi government has not been particularly effective at public relations. It has often been slow at telling people of its achievements, and foreign journalists in Baghdad sometimes have problems trying to find out what the forces are doing and how they are succeeding.
Displaced Iraqis from Anbar province cross a bridge over the River Euphrates and enter Baghdad province (20 May 2015)
Tens of thousands of Ramadi residents fled the city after Islamic State's offensive
The result is that there has been real scepticism internationally about the Iraqi government's claims to be pushing IS back on almost all fronts.
When the Prime Minister, Haider al-Abadi, told the BBC that his forces would recapture Ramadi within days, there was widespread disbelief; even though Western diplomats in Baghdad have been forecasting very much the same thing.
Perhaps it would have been better if he had been a little more vague; but the effort to recapture Ramadi began very quickly after its fall, and is showing reasonably good results.
When government forces fought their way into the strategically important oil town of Baiji, north of Baghdad, last week, the news got remarkably little attention internationally - even though Baiji is a vitally important staging-post between Ramadi and Islamic State's chief centre in Iraq, Mosul.
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Haider al-Abadi insisted that Islamic State "are not winning"
None of this is definitive proof that the Iraqi government is indeed winning its war against Islamic State. There could be other Ramadis to come, and perhaps even something as devastating as last year's fall of Mosul.
But it's difficult to believe that. More difficult, indeed, than believing Mr Abadi when he says he will drive IS out of Iraq by the end of this year.
The government knows it can't rely too heavily on the Iraqi army, and it has concentrated instead on building up the volunteer forces which Westerners call militias (a word which has a strongly negative connotation in Arabic, particularly as spoken in Iraq).
The fact that Shia Muslims have volunteered for these militias in far greater numbers than Sunnis has created serious anxieties about a Shia army waging sectarian war against the Sunni inhabitants of cities like Ramadi and Mosul.
Shia militiamen on the outskirts of the Baiji oil refinery in Iraq (25 May 2015)
The Iraqi government has deployed Shia militias to Anbar province to support the army
The government is doing what it can to reduce the risk, but the anxieties are still there.
Nevertheless, the militias have given the government a weapon which can counter the ferocity of IS. They are pushing forward around Ramadi and Falluja, and (together with the Kurdish Peshmerga) will play a part in the effort to regain Mosul, later this year.
The war is still far from being won, and disasters could very well lie ahead. But the fact remains that, when it comes to fighting IS, Iraq is in a far better position than Syria.
I'm not sure how credible I find such optimism, but its a nice alternative to alarmism and undercuts IS's image of power and success. I suppose time will tell, soon, how far Iraq's government has come and what it is capable of.

The most worrying bit to me is the reliance on sectarian militias, which the article touches on but somewhat glosses over. That'll be a big problem that will likely still need addressing even after IS has lost.
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The Romulan Republic wrote:The most worrying bit to me is the reliance on sectarian militias, which the article touches on but somewhat glosses over. That'll be a big problem that will likely still need addressing even after IS has lost.
Ramadi and Fallujah together account for a million people. If these Shia militias show as much self restraint as they did in Tikrit, ISIS might soon have far more fighters there willing to fight them back than mere 150. And anyway, the fact that 150 people can capture over a million strong province shows the very idea of Iraq was irrevocably shattered and the state might be on the way to disintegration.
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Where does it say they took a province with 150 people? It says they took a city with 150 people (admittedly extremely bad and pathetic) and trickery. With hundreds more arriving quickly.
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The Romulan Republic wrote:Where does it say they took a province with 150 people? It says they took a city with 150 people (admittedly extremely bad and pathetic) and trickery. With hundreds more arriving quickly.
Because it makes no sense to divide forces when you're 150 to 1500? And Ramadi is far more juicer prize than rest of the province? Reinforcements only arrived to fortify the unexpected windfall.

And one more point the article is wrong about - Kurds didn't exactly stopped ISIS last time I checked. Yes, they put much more valiant fight than so-called Iraq army, but much vaunted victory in Kobane was result of USA bombing the city house by house, shed by shed, dropping 3-4 bomb per building, until nothing on ISIS side was left standing forcing them to pull back. See these photos for example:

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-31088684

And even despite turning the city into the pile of rubble, ISIS is still just outside, waiting for any opportunity while Turkey plays both sides to bleed them at their leisure:

http://aranews.net/2015/05/kobane-at-st ... ithdrawal/
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I've been saying this forever. After their initial blitzkrieg through Northern Iraq, ISIL has since lost almost 75% of their territory, including major cities like Tikrit. They are hardly the unstoppable juggernaut the media often portrays them as. Wikipedia has a good timeline - one city after another has been steadily retaken from ISIL over the past few months. I doubt they'll hold Mosul for much longer.

However, they keep making headlines because of their unrelenting brutality and insane delusions of grandeur. Also, their scattered victories (like Ramadi) seem to get more headlines then their long list of defeats. The Kurds kicked their ass multiple times, but that rarely makes headlines.

Anyway, I really wouldn't call the situation "optimistic" - in the sense that northern Iraq and Syria is still mostly a warzone, but I would just say that ISIL's actual military prowess is exaggerated by the media for the most part.
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Control of Ramadi does not confer control of the province. Have the government troops taken up positions in the open country outside Ramadi?

If I were in command of Iraqi troops, and had any confidence at all in their willingness to actually fight, I would welcome opportunities to fight Da'esh in open country.

If I lacked that confidence... well, it matters little whether you 'defend' the cities or the countryside, if you aren't willing to shoot at the enemy soldiers.

As to Kobane, yes, that is what house to house fighting looks like. Much of the destruction you see was caused not by US bombs but by the Kurds' and Da'esh's own weapons*. The place is a pile of rubble, but urban areas that are seriously fought over by modern armies are always rubble afterwards. The only exceptions come when one side collapses quickly and does not fight to defend each building, or when one side shows extreme restraint against a lightly armed enemy.

Pretty much every city in Europe looked like this after World War Two was over, and frankly, the war against Da'esh is going to hurt Mesopotamia about as badly as World War Two hurt Europe.
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*Not because of the US showing any special restraint, but because the Kurds and Da'esh are both fighting quite hard and have plenty of explosive weapons of their own. They are quite capable of blowing things up themselves, too...
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