Russia's ambassador to Turkey killed in gun attack

[Broomstick]

Sure, I remember all that, but I don't get it - why look for more and more elaborate plots when there is a cogent and logical explanation that doesn't require excessive complications?

Maybe I'm just wired differently than average.

[Sea Skimmer]

No its just that for a lot of people conspiracy theories have just become some form of religions fundamentalism. We only notice it more, maybe, because religion is on the decline in the west, we were blaming THAT for less of human flaws then normal, and human history is ass full of absurd conspiracy theories gaining ground and causing events up to full scale rebellions and mass outbreaks of kinda insane violence. For example the Great Fear of the French revolution, one of the largest and strangests mass hysteria events I know of.

This is all compounded by people being stupid, and probably overestimating the kind of security even a high profile ambassador has. That happens behind a great many conspiracy theories, people just don't want to accept mentally how easy some things are. I think this is linked the biological wiring of most humans, and species, not to kill other members of the same species. I think it basically jams some peoples ability to think about it ice cold rationally, which is why without a lot and lot of training, and even then and with most conscripts in general we only get maybe 20% of people ever firing at the enemy. The Ancient Greeks reckoned on a similar ratio of men seriously fighting with melee weapons. Meanwhile with a modern all volunteer army we expect closer to 100% participation rates, but we struggle to recruit enough intelligent people to fill ranks too.

A lot of other emotion is also tied up in it all concerning wealth and power on subjects like this. People want to blame one thing for all of life's problems.Of course many conspiracies exist in the world, it's just the most important ones to life are also really damn blatant. In this case nobody gains anything useful by this event, pretty much at all. Russia might gain a few sympathy points but its clearly just an idiot act of rage against a really obvious soft target.

I remember when the Assadist defense minister was blown up in the Syrian defense ministry early in the Syrian civil war by insiders all the pro Assadist moron sources were raving how that was a giant US-Israeli conspiracy too.

[Joun_Lord]

Sure, I remember all that, but I don't get it - why look for more and more elaborate plots when there is a cogent and logical explanation that doesn't require excessive complications?

Maybe I'm just wired differently than average.

I think, and this is me just guessing, its a combo of an unwillingness or inability to believe the accepted truth and as Sea Skimmer said the inability to accept how easy some things are.

The "Truth" for alot of people does not conform to what they want the truth to be, its like the hipster of truth for them. The truth does not fit their biases, prejudices, preconceived notions, and things they believe to be fact. Therefore it cannot be true. Someone who does not believe Islamic terrorism is really a thing is not going to believe the accepted truth of 9/11, someone who prejudicial cockbag is going to believe any achievement or accomplishment done by any race/sex/religion/group other then their chosen one is some conspiracy to hide the truth, some dumbass who thinks women are too weak to be soldier will automatically think any female infantry slept their way to the top or were given a pass to be PC bro, and people that "know" outer space radiation is instantly deadly or "know" the technology didn't exist for a rocket to go to the moon "know" the moon landings are fake.

People really don't like to be part of the herd, to be hipsters themselves. They think themselves smarter, more enlightened, that they have their eyes open, or "woke" I guess the kids say nowadays with their skateboarding shoes and mix tapes. Everyone else believes the moon landings happened, Oswald shot JFK, Obama was born in Murica, and 9/11 was done by some Al Qaeda douches. Everyone else is also part of the great unwashed mass, the uneducated simpletons who's brains are rotted from reality tv, all the stupid normal people. Everyone else would not know the truth of anything if it took a dump on their ankle. Everyone else is wrong, they are right. Only they have the intelligence, the drive, the superior minds to divine the truth.

And to expand on what Sea Skimmer said, its hard for some people to accept something can happen so easily, that the explanation is so easy even if its not really. Its hard to accept that we really did fire some dudes at the moon, that space ain't instant death, that there was no complicated explanation as to why we couldn't do it, we did. Hard to believe some crazy wackoo capped the President, that it wasn't some deep reaching plot, that others weren't involved, that he didn't have help, that somebody more important then "some guy" didn't do it. Its not easy to accept that some extremist morons managed to hijack 4 planes and use them to destroy two great big towers, damage the Pentagon, and snuff out thousands of lives in the process without anyone noticing, without the government giving them help or doing it themselves, without someone stopping them.

They reject Occam's Razor, they find a simple or easy explanation to not make sense, its too easy, something so big and mind boggling should not be so simple. That all these things have to have an explanation that is just as complicated as they perceive it to be. Or the opposite, something with a complicated explanation is actually has some simple answer. We didn't spend decades building the science, testing rockets, pushing the limits of human endurance and our own imagination to put some dudes of the moon, nah it faked on a soundstage by Stanley Kubrick. There was no way the 9/11 attackers could come here, stay under the radar, get pilot lessons, plan the attack, and successful implement it, and destroy both Towers just by smashing fragile and comparatively small planes in them, clearly it had to have just been the government doing a controlled demolition after hitting the buildings with drone planes.

This attack just is more of the same. It can't just be some disgruntled idiot or religious extremists pissed his buddies are being bombed, it has to be some far reaching plot by members of multiple government involving Hollywood actors, blood squibs, and gullible fools willing to accept some clearly fake killing. The simple explanation is too.......simple. It couldn't be that simple, it has to have some mystery, some deep meaning or motive, something far beyond crazy dude shoots other dude.

The Rebellion did Alderaan, the Organa family are liars, Palpatine is innocent.

[Shroom Man 777]

It is far more optimistic for people to assume some super sinister elaborate constipiracy for this to happen.

The pessimistic thing is that this guy was just like any guy but something went wrong and he pointed the gun at the other guy... and that this other guy was just like any guy and could be any of us... and then bang bang.

[Zixinus]

I agree with Shroomie: I think another important element to conspiracy theories is the notion that events are actually happening according to a plan. An evil plan but a recognizable, understandable plan none the less. A denial of bad chaos. That one person gunned down wasn't random, opportunity that a crazy managed to exploit with good luck. No, it was all planned, the man's death was scheduled by evil people and if we could juts stop the evil people from making more plans the world would stop having bad things from happening.

[Lord Revan]

I suspect there's also the matter of regection of the possibility of evil in them. After all it's easier to assume that all evil was done by people who were born evil and people who weren't are "safe" because only those born evil will do evil so those not born evil will never do evil.

In a sense it's a child's perspective of the world, it's just some people never grow out of it and accept that there's no master plan and no one is born evil and anyone can become evil if they're not careful.

[Zixinus]

There is also a far simpler explanation that occurred to me: the world is complicated, things often happen for reasons that are obscure or confusing or worse, challenge existing beliefs about the world and people do not understand why something happened. Or simply cannot make sense of when they are told what happened (and it's not like news media doesn't lie or misunderstand things or both). So they make an explanation that makes sense to them.

[FireNexus]

I should point out, as the originator of this, that my "conspiracy theory" is admittedly half-baked, and based mostly on the idea that the US within the last week promised retaliation against Russia. Otherwise, probably just a random crazy.

[Sidewinder]

I should point out, as the originator of this, that my "conspiracy theory" is admittedly half-baked, and based mostly on the idea that the US within the last week promised retaliation against Russia. Otherwise, probably just a random crazy.

Don't put out conspiracy theories unless they're fully baked. Half-baked bullshit was what led Congress to support George W. Bush's 2003 invasion of Iraq, remember?

[Sidewinder]

Sure, I remember all that, but I don't get it - why look for more and more elaborate plots when there is a cogent and logical explanation that doesn't require excessive complications?

Maybe I'm just wired differently than average.

Again, they're looking for scapegoats, or excuses to blame their chosen scapegoat for all the world's ills. Some fucktards blame the US government for everything, up to and including the AIDS epidemic- I'm sure they'll blame the US government for bad weather, claiming "weather control satellites" are the reason it's too cold, to anyone and everyone nearby.

[Broomstick]

Actually, people have blamed the US government for both bad weather and earthquakes.