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Justin Trudeau's latest vice - Dressing up in blackface

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I think he needs to challenge his detractors to a boxing match. That's the proper way to settle disputes. :lol:
Jokes aside about his boxing prowess, here is the article.

https://time.com/5680759/justin-trudeau ... ace-photo/
Justin Trudeau Wore Brownface at 2001 ‘Arabian Nights’ Party While He Taught at a Private School

BY ANNA PURNA KAMBHAMPATY , MADELEINE CARLISLE AND MELISSA CHAN UPDATED: SEPTEMBER 19, 2019 8:24 AM ET | ORIGINALLY PUBLISHED: SEPTEMBER 18, 2019
Justin Trudeau, Canada’s prime minister, wore brownface makeup to a party at the private school where he was teaching in the spring of 2001. TIME has obtained a photograph of the incident.

The photograph has not been previously reported. The picture was taken at an “Arabian Nights”-themed gala. It shows Trudeau, then the 29-year-old son of the late former Prime Minister Pierre Trudeau, wearing a turban and robes with his face, neck and hands completely darkened. The photograph appears in the 2000-2001 yearbook of West Point Grey Academy, a private day school where Trudeau was a teacher.

Earlier this month, TIME obtained a copy of the yearbook, The View, with the photograph of Trudeau in brownface from Vancouver businessman Michael Adamson, who was part of the West Point Grey Academy community. Adamson was not at the party, which was attended by school faculty, administrators and parents of students. He said that he first saw the photograph in July and felt it should be made public.
That's just a snippet. However Trudeau has admitted to doing the same in high school, and apparently he has been discovered doing it a third time and this time it ain't high school. Funny thing is, even in the 1990s when I was in high school this was considered bad taste. And my teenage self in the 90s was younger than Trudeau was in 2001 (he was 29 at the time).

Wonder how this would affect the election. Would people vote for him anyway as the lesser of two evils?
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I should think that NOT wearing a costume at a costume party would be considered newsworthy.
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Elfdart wrote: 2019-09-19 09:59am I should think that NOT wearing a costume at a costume party would be considered newsworthy.
I mean, that's not remotely what this is about, but okay.

On principle, fuck Justin Trudeau.

That said, it would be a bitter irony if we elected the blatantly bigoted Conservatives over this. But unfortunately, a lot of people prefer an "honest", consistent asshole to an inconsistent hypocrite. How do you think Trump won election?
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Trudeau seems rather apologetic over it, and related instances.

Hopefully, this will not influence the election, because right now our choices are:

Liberal/Trudeau - Has made stupid decisions in the past, but his biggest political screw up has been attempting to protect jobs, and doing a piss poor job of managing his cabinent.
Conservatives/Sheer - Homophobic, Bigot.
NDP/Singh - Untested, complete unknown, and generally dismissed.

The other three parties are not even on the radar beyond 1 - 2 seats.
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Solauren wrote: 2019-09-19 09:36pm Trudeau seems rather apologetic over it, and related instances.

Hopefully, this will not influence the election, because right now our choices are:

Liberal/Trudeau - Has made stupid decisions in the past, but his biggest political screw up has been attempting to protect jobs, and doing a piss poor job of managing his cabinent.
Conservatives/Sheer - Homophobic, Bigot.
NDP/Singh - Untested, complete unknown, and generally dismissed.

The other three parties are not even on the radar beyond 1 - 2 seats.
I think you are underrating the Greens a bit. They're riding a wave of climate change fears right now, and at least around here have been campaigning very actively. They don't have a snowball's chance on a post-climate change Earth of winning the most seats, but I've seen polling that has them in the same ballpark as the NDP. Granted the Greens keep coming close to breaking through and not quite doing it at the national level, but I wouldn't be shocked if they picked up several seats.

As far as what the next government is going to be, though... yeah, its Libs or Cons, as usual. So we can take the either corrupt, grossly-incompetent, or both Trudeau, who also likes Brownface, or the raging homophobe who will also fuck poor people, and who's party is openly flirting (again) with Islamophobia and anti-immigrant xenophobia as well as authoritarianism (see Doug Ford).

I am pissed at Trudeau, because either he wins and it sends the message that casual racism from political leaders is no big deal, or he loses and we get an overt bigot as PM, basically Trump-Lite. But given those choices... I'm rooting for, sigh, Trudeau.

Thankfully my riding is likely to be either NDP or Green, Libs and Cons aren't really a factor, so I don't have to hold my nose and can just vote Green.
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The Romulan Republic wrote: 2019-09-19 09:43pm

Thankfully my riding is likely to be either NDP or Green, Libs and Cons aren't really a factor, so I don't have to hold my nose and can just vote Green.
How is the voting system in Canada? In Australia we have a preferential voting system so theoretically I could vote third party who has no chance of winning even their seat, but my preferences will go to one of the major parties, or the lesser of the two evils. In US terms, a preferential voting system would allow one to vote Jill Stein (and keep your conscience clean) and the vote will eventually flow to Hilary over Trump.
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Trudeau always struck me as a Canadian version of Evan Bayh: a mediocrity who owes his success to having a great statesman or courageous public servant for a father. Mitt Romney, Hilary Benn and Mark Halperin also fall into this category.
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mr friendly guy wrote: 2019-09-19 09:55pm
The Romulan Republic wrote: 2019-09-19 09:43pm

Thankfully my riding is likely to be either NDP or Green, Libs and Cons aren't really a factor, so I don't have to hold my nose and can just vote Green.
How is the voting system in Canada? In Australia we have a preferential voting system so theoretically I could vote third party who has no chance of winning even their seat, but my preferences will go to one of the major parties, or the lesser of the two evils. In US terms, a preferential voting system would allow one to vote Jill Stein (and keep your conscience clean) and the vote will eventually flow to Hilary over Trump.
I can assure you, even if she were leading in the polls, I would not vote for that fraudulent Kremlin-loving anti-vax conspiracy theorist Jill Stein. My opposition to her has nothing to do with "lesser of two evils", and everything to do with her being a piece of shit who was only not the worst candidate in the race because Trump was running.

That aside, we don't have preferential voting here, no. Personally, if it were up to me, I would tend to favor a run-off system (which some countries, and some US states) have- wherein if no candidate gets a majority on the first round, they hold another vote between the top two candidates.
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The Romulan Republic wrote: 2019-09-19 10:09pm

I can assure you, even if she were leading in the polls, I would not vote for that fraudulent Kremlin-loving anti-vax conspiracy theorist Jill Stein. My opposition to her has nothing to do with "lesser of two evils", and everything to do with her being a piece of shit who was only not the worst candidate in the race because Trump was running.

That aside, we don't have preferential voting here, no. Personally, if it were up to me, I would tend to favor a run-off system (which some countries, and some US states) have- wherein if no candidate gets a majority on the first round, they hold another vote between the top two candidates.
1. Jill Stein might not be the best example then, but it was meant as an example of a third party candidate who had no chance of winning.

2. Wouldn't a preferential system be better than a run off then? Because you already decide who you vote for if your preferred candidate doesn't get a majority via your 2nd,3rd, 4th preferences etc. It saves the time for another election, more campaigning etc.
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mr friendly guy wrote: 2019-09-19 10:41pm
The Romulan Republic wrote: 2019-09-19 10:09pm

I can assure you, even if she were leading in the polls, I would not vote for that fraudulent Kremlin-loving anti-vax conspiracy theorist Jill Stein. My opposition to her has nothing to do with "lesser of two evils", and everything to do with her being a piece of shit who was only not the worst candidate in the race because Trump was running.

That aside, we don't have preferential voting here, no. Personally, if it were up to me, I would tend to favor a run-off system (which some countries, and some US states) have- wherein if no candidate gets a majority on the first round, they hold another vote between the top two candidates.
1. Jill Stein might not be the best example then, but it was meant as an example of a third party candidate who had no chance of winning.

2. Wouldn't a preferential system be better than a run off then? Because you already decide who you vote for if your preferred candidate doesn't get a majority via your 2nd,3rd, 4th preferences etc. It saves the time for another election, more campaigning etc.
Fair point. Yeah, I could support a preferential system- I'm just more familiar with the runoff system.
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