Antivaxers limited impact on Britain vaccination rate, NHS to blame

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Antivaxers limited impact on Britain vaccination rate, NHS to blame

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https://www.theguardian.com/society/201 ... tion-rates

To summarise, Britain has falling childhood vaccinations. While this is multifactorial, antivaxers form a relatively small impact. More important factors are lack of resources post Tory restructuring, which caused gaps in vaccination monitoring between GP and Child Health Immunisation Program.


While reforms are being aimed to help this, it ultimately cannot be denied that more manpower, which would make vaccination appointment easier to schedule would help this situation
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Sounds like ye old starve the beast tactic, gut and destroy the NHS so you get people angry at it and can privatize it. Then death and profit.
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Does the UK link vaccination to welfare payments like Australia? Does the UK have some central database which records which kids has had their vaccinations? Hoping some UK posters might tell us, because it would be interesting.
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His Divine Shadow wrote: 2019-10-25 03:05am Sounds like ye old starve the beast tactic, gut and destroy the NHS so you get people angry at it and can privatize it. Then death and profit.
Well... Technically it's more fragmented system created gaps which normally would had been sealed by school health nurses and etc but failed due to resources
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My wife did a thesis on this.

1) the rate is measured at pre-5, pre school. This is a semi-arbitrary deadline, with nearly all kids being "caught up" once they enter the school system.
2) some vaccines are cold chain required and MUST be given by a GP. Some Gps might offer a regular slot a month to do vaccinations, but if you have three other kids and need to take the bus to get there...
3) the factors that make getting your kid to an appointment harder (lack of transport, lack of family support, lack of time due to shifts, ect) are the same factors that make everything else harder so everything compounds creating a very stark drop off by income
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madd0ct0r wrote: 2019-10-25 12:52pm My wife did a thesis on this.

1) the rate is measured at pre-5, pre school. This is a semi-arbitrary deadline, with nearly all kids being "caught up" once they enter the school system.
2) some vaccines are cold chain required and MUST be given by a GP. Some Gps might offer a regular slot a month to do vaccinations, but if you have three other kids and need to take the bus to get there...
3) the factors that make getting your kid to an appointment harder (lack of transport, lack of family support, lack of time due to shifts, ect) are the same factors that make everything else harder so everything compounds creating a very stark drop off by income
IIRC, the issue was that the catch up now is also fragmented as school health visits are being cut due to manpower. It's why I highlighted the issue in reply to His Divine Shadow.
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