Alberta oil company distributes stickers depicting Greta Thunberg (a minor) being sexually assaulted.

[Xisiqomelir]

Actually I was mostly siding with TRR here.

Under Canuck law you don't require an actual child to be depicted in these images for it to be deemed child pornography I believe. e.g. lolicon manga would qualify and send you down for the full count.

[loomer]

Actually I was mostly siding with TRR here.

Under Canuck law you don't require an actual child to be depicted in these images for it to be deemed child pornography I believe. e.g. lolicon manga would qualify and send you down for the full count.

You shouldn't, because TRR knows sweet fuck all about the law. Canadian law does not require the depiction to be of either an actual child or a photograph, but it does require that the depiction contain a person under the age of 18 engaged/depicted as being engaged in explicit sexual activity and/or which depicts the sex organs or anus for a predominantly sexual purpose of a person under the age of 18. That's where the argument falls short, not whether or not the sticker depicts a real person.

[The Romulan Republic]

I would like to take this opportunity to apologize for my conduct in this thread.

I certainly do not apologize for my disgust and anger at the evil tactics of this company, a sentiment which I hope that everyone on this board shares. And if their actions are not illegal (something which, as someone without professional experience or formal training in the law, I am not really qualified to determine beyond quoting the relevant laws and experts), then I would say that they probably should be (that may be a more controversial position, but I feel that images depicting, and arguably promoting/inciting, sexual violence against political opponents, particularly minors, should fall outside of protected speech, whether you want to characterize them as child pornography, terrorism, or just harassment/bullying, or some other term).

However, none of that changes the fact that certain comments I made, particularly reg. the use of terrorism charges, were, at best, ill-considered, poorly articulated, and misleading, and that I did not handle the resulting dispute well. That I lashed out in a reckless manner, contributed to derailing this thread, and making it about me rather than about the actions of the fossil fuel companies. Which it really shouldn't be.

So, I apologize for allowing my anger to get the better of me, and for lashing out in a counterproductive and needlessly disruptive and nasty manner.

[Xisiqomelir]

Actually I was mostly siding with TRR here.

Under Canuck law you don't require an actual child to be depicted in these images for it to be deemed child pornography I believe. e.g. lolicon manga would qualify and send you down for the full count.

You shouldn't, because TRR knows sweet fuck all about the law. Canadian law does not require the depiction to be of either an actual child or a photograph, but it does require that the depiction contain a person under the age of 18 engaged/depicted as being engaged in explicit sexual activity and/or which depicts the sex organs or anus for a predominantly sexual purpose of a person under the age of 18. That's where the argument falls short, not whether or not the sticker depicts a real person.

Ahh gotcha, thanks for the clarification.

[Elfdart]

I'm not surprised. Right-wing cartoonist Ben Garrison had a cartoon featuring Thunberg being spanked. If Twitter is anything to go by, this desire to see her being spanked has stirred the loins of many a right-wing pervert. One thing that has oozed to the surface since Cheeto Mussolini got elected is the way some right-wingers have burst out of the pedo closet with their fantasies about inflicting sexual violence on kids. Whether it's the Kentucky GOP blocking a law banning child marriage, or puffing up Milo NAMBLA-nopolous as a brave gadfly AFTER he sang the praises of grown men screwing 13-year-old boys, or anti-abortion measures that force underage girls to carry their rapists' seed to term and now fantasies about molesting a kid, these people should be kept away from schools and playgrounds.

[The Romulan Republic]

I'm not surprised. Right-wing cartoonist Ben Garrison had a cartoon featuring Thunberg being spanked. If Twitter is anything to go by, this desire to see her being spanked has stirred the loins of many a right-wing pervert. One thing that has oozed to the surface since Cheeto Mussolini got elected is the way some right-wingers have burst out of the pedo closet with their fantasies about inflicting sexual violence on kids. Whether it's the Kentucky GOP blocking a law banning child marriage, or puffing up Milo NAMBLA-nopolous as a brave gadfly AFTER he sang the praises of grown men screwing 13-year-old boys, or anti-abortion measures that force underage girls to carry their rapists' seed to term and now fantasies about molesting a kid, these people should be kept away from schools and playgrounds.

The Alt. Reich is all about denigrating and exploiting vulnerable groups of people, and about a sense of masculine power/lack of power (hence their obsession with terms like "cuck", "beta male", etc.). Of course a lot of them are rapists, or wannabe rapists. Of course they get off on sexually abusing women and children.

[Ralin]

or puffing up Milo NAMBLA-nopolous as a brave gadfly AFTER he sang the praises of grown men screwing 13-year-old boys

Really? Because the way I remember it that was what finally got Republicans to mostly stop inviting him to events. Last I heard between that and colleges deplatforming him he was very much a done deal.

[The Romulan Republic]

https://theglobeandmail.com/canada/arti ... tion-says/

Swedish climate activist Greta Thunberg says a decal bearing an energy services company’s logo below a cartoon depicting what appears to be a sexual assault shows desperation.

An Alberta woman complained to the RCMP earlier this week about the black-and-white drawing of a female figure’s bare back with hands pulling on her braided pigtails.

Under the drawing is the name “Greta” and the logo of X-Site Energy Services.

Thunberg, who is 17, has tweeted a story written about the cartoon and said “they are starting to get more and more desperate …”

She adds that it shows climate activists are winning.

RCMP in central Alberta say the decal is not child pornography nor does it depict “a non-consensual act that would be a direct threat to the person.”

“Alberta RCMP do not believe it constitutes a criminal offence,” a police statement said Friday. “As such, Alberta RCMP will not be commenting any further on this investigation.”

A torrent of online outrage was sparked after Michelle Narang of Rocky Mountain House, Alta., posted the image on social media Wednesday night. She said she cried when she saw it.

“The visual is jarring,” Narang said Thursday. “It hurt. It hurt on so many levels.”

Alberta Premier Jason Kenney, Status of Women Minister Leela Aheer and politicians of all stripes denounced the graphic.

Thunberg has made headlines for her passionate pleas to world leaders to take tougher action on cutting greenhouse gas emissions and for inspiring large climate marches around the world.

She joined thousands in a march through downtown Edmonton in October. Oil-and-gas industry supporters showed up, but they were vastly outnumbered by the climate marchers.

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It is absolutely awful that anyone, especially a child, should have to issue a response to a graphic of themselves being raped, but she did so in about the best possible way.

[Elfdart]

I was talking about the last several years. Yes, CPAC deserves credit for erasing him, but right up until the video where he advocated pedophilia went public, he was being feted as a brave polemicist not just by neo-Nazis, but by the NYT and Bill Maher (and Maher, shit weasel that he is, tried to claim credit for exposing him).

[Ralin]

Yeah, I remember a blogger I follow who's transgender being bitter about that. Not that advocating pedophilia isn't a great reason to shitcan him, but the contrast between how cis people in general reacted when he crossed a line they cared about did a great job of illustrating how little they cared about her or any of the other demographics he'd gone after.

[MKSheppard]

Related; a minor incident today involving Greta and 4channers:



Basically, a 4channer finds a 3D image that looks kinda like Greta, makes up a quick and dirty story about commissioning a sexdoll from a Japanese company for $3400, and that it'll be programmed with specific phrases -- "How dare you" -- being one of them.

It goes around the world via twitter before people realize that it's a 3D render.