N.Korea admits to Nuclear Weapons

Crown · Post by **Crown** » 2003-04-24 11:30pm

This isn't too suprising. Fact is had the Clinton administration not got the nuke deal that it did with NK back in the day, today they would have 50-60 nukes (PBS documentary). So while NK admits that it has nukes now, it would only have a handful at best.

Not the best scenario, but puts things into perspective. Bush's administration never had a policy towards NK, they had an attitude. Well the roosters are coming home to roost y'all.

EDIT:: Just noticed the source, I would also like to see if I can find another source...

Justin · Post by **Justin** » 2003-04-25 10:56am

Fact is, the Clinton administration caved in to pressure and bought the North Koreans (bribed) off. Bush finds that highly immoral (as do I). Fact is, it's much easier to let the dammed North Koreans starve themselves. And if you Canadiens and Australians find that so immoral why don't you guys pony up the money and buy Kim off this time? You want peace? Well do something about it. Fact is, the Koreans want money, so why don't your goverments give it to them? I got news you. Bush was isolationist before 9/11 and he would love nothing better than to go back to it. Fact is, we were leaving the Korean penninsula before this started, and if Kim wasn't a total idiot we would be well on our way out (which is what the crazy paranoid little fucker wanted in the first place, so he could roll over South Korea) and if that's so horrible why dosn't Canada, the EU, or Australia sign a mutual defence pact with South Korea, or even better, send a couple of divisions worth of troops over there to guard the DMZ?
Can anybody answer this question?

Post by **Vympel** » 2003-04-25 11:02am

lukexcom wrote:
Same thing here. It looks good, although there are a few copy-paste jobs from FAS, from what I can tell by scanning.

The thing that annoys me about both FAS and globalsecurity.org is the difference in quality between US systems and such and the other countries. It's Soviet systems coverage is especially poor, all except for the naval section, which is good because it has ship lists and numbers.

Ted · Post by **Ted** » 2003-04-25 11:05am

Justin wrote:Can anybody answer this question?

Maybe it is because your government CAUSED the whole problem as it is now?

You government by placing that idiot MacArthur in control, who got the Chinese involved.

Justin · Post by **Justin** » 2003-04-25 11:44am

And how exactly did he he get the Chinese involved? The Korean war was a U.N. war, although, as usual, the U.S. contributed the most blood (dead Americans) and treasure (low intrest loans and lucrative trade deals afterward to get South Koreans economy back afloat). And if you want to take over, and think you can do a better job, that's fine by us. Good Luck. Are you going to write to your head of state or local goverment represenitive and urge them to take over in Korea? And would they do it if you did?:roll: If not, I suggest that you Butt Out.

Justin · Post by **Justin** » 2003-04-25 11:49am

And I noticed although you were ready to whine about the situation, you did not mention any kind of solution.

" The problem of leadership is inevitably:Who will play God?"

acesand8s · Post by **acesand8s** » 2003-04-25 12:11pm

And how exactly did he he get the Chinese involved?

MacArthur smashed the North Korean Army with the Inchon landings, then invaded the north. The Chinese feared, correctly, that the US would unite the Koreas under a democracy and sent a few hundred thousand troops to defend N. Korea. Or was that a retorical question?

Maybe it is because your government CAUSED the whole problem as it is now?

You government by placing that idiot MacArthur in control, who got the Chinese involved.

Yeah, but without MacArthur and the Inchon landing, NK probably would have beaten the last pocket of South Korean/UN resistance and we would have a united Korea...communist of course. That doesn't help the situation much.

The_Nice_Guy · Post by **The_Nice_Guy** » 2003-04-25 02:20pm

I always thought the Yalu river line was a poor excuse for the Chinese. And the end result was the death of an entire generation of chinese men in Korea.

[sarcasm]Great going, Mao![/sarcasm]

The Nice Guy

Grand Admiral Thrawn · Post by **Grand Admiral Thrawn** » 2003-04-25 05:26pm

Justin wrote:And if you Canadiens

Fuck off Motherfucker. There hasn't been one Canadian to post here before me.

Post by **Sea Skimmer** » 2003-04-25 07:04pm

phongn wrote:
Aren't there some rumors that Moscow may be getting hit-to-kill warheads?

Such rumors can be found in my 1980 copy of Soviet Military power, it doesnt seem to have ever happened.

Ignorant twit · Post by **Ignorant twit** » 2003-04-25 07:08pm

Maybe it is because your government CAUSED the whole problem as it is now?

Snort, only if you count our calculation not to take the war to mainland China as a cause. Who knows maybe if we let McArthur bomb the Chinese we could have kicked the "volunteer's" ass and had a united democratic Korea.

Honestly North Korea invaded, we kicked their asses out. What were supposed to do ... stop at the original border? Yeah we tried that too, it was called Vietnam. Notice how well THAT strategy worked.

The simple fact of the matter is China was BS'ing about the Yula and any claims of defense. Notice how their offensive did not stop at defending the Yula, nor even at holding the 38th parrallel. China had a few million former KMT soldiers and surprise, surprise ... 2/3rds of em elected not to be repatriated. China wanted a communist Korea, if they could only get the 38th parrallel ... then that is what they'd take. If they could burn KMT lives to get more ... why not?

Post by **Sea Skimmer** » 2003-04-25 07:08pm

The_Nice_Guy wrote:I always thought the Yalu river line was a poor excuse for the Chinese. And the end result was the death of an entire generation of chinese men in Korea.

[sarcasm]Great going, Mao![/sarcasm]

The Nice Guy

Communist states cant tolerate an alternative to there system existing. While in the west the Russian was checked by US nuclear strength, in the east the Chinese thought they could just sweep the US out of a country it didn't care that much about and then return to building there own state.

However like so many nations, they underestimated the US resolve and strength