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As with Patriot, the Justice Department is trying to gain outrageous new powers by packaging them with useful and ncessary changes to the law. It's an old but effective trick, though it's telling that the chairman of the judiciary committee, a Republican, has basically said in politician-speak that Ashcroft is full of shit.
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How bout we take Bob's giant Steel Thermos and let Mr. Asscroft ride it?!? Didn't The Onion have an article about somethinglike this?
WAIT, found it
The Onion article
WAIT, found it
The Onion article
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Remember that story(dunno if it was true) about how Washington's soldiers offered to crown him King of America, but he turned it down?
Well, let us be thankful Asscroft lives in this day and age, 'cause if he didn't, all hail King John I...
Well, let us be thankful Asscroft lives in this day and age, 'cause if he didn't, all hail King John I...
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[quote=Ashcroft]
The death penalty provision would allow for executions in cases where a terrorist caused "massive loss of life" by attacking a military base, nuclear plant or energy plant, the Justice Department said.
In addition, federal suspects in gun, drug and organized crime cases "where public safety is a concern" automatically are held indefinitely when they are arrested, Ashcroft said. "It seems as though the crime of terrorism should have the same presumption," he said.
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HOLY BEJESUS. this nman is insane. First off once again attacking a military base is NOT TERRORISM regardless of how many times this dumbass thinks it is.
ohh yes drugs are a public safety issue. More like a public control issue. And holding people indefinitely without trial, that is a little something called UNFUCKINGCONSTITUTIONAL.
I swear Ascroft is a Facist.
The death penalty provision would allow for executions in cases where a terrorist caused "massive loss of life" by attacking a military base, nuclear plant or energy plant, the Justice Department said.
In addition, federal suspects in gun, drug and organized crime cases "where public safety is a concern" automatically are held indefinitely when they are arrested, Ashcroft said. "It seems as though the crime of terrorism should have the same presumption," he said.
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HOLY BEJESUS. this nman is insane. First off once again attacking a military base is NOT TERRORISM regardless of how many times this dumbass thinks it is.
ohh yes drugs are a public safety issue. More like a public control issue. And holding people indefinitely without trial, that is a little something called UNFUCKINGCONSTITUTIONAL.
I swear Ascroft is a Facist.
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Why would attacking a military base not be terrorism? It certainly ould not be for crime because there is very little money to be had...
Something about Libertarianism always bothered me. Then one day, I realized what it was:
Libertarian philosophy can be boiled down to the phrase, "Work Will Make You Free."
In Libertarianism, there is no Government, so the Bosses are free to exploit the Workers.
In Communism, there is no Government, so the Workers are free to exploit the Bosses.
So in Libertarianism, man exploits man, but in Communism, its the other way around!
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Libertarian philosophy can be boiled down to the phrase, "Work Will Make You Free."
In Libertarianism, there is no Government, so the Bosses are free to exploit the Workers.
In Communism, there is no Government, so the Workers are free to exploit the Bosses.
So in Libertarianism, man exploits man, but in Communism, its the other way around!
If all you want to do is have some harmless, mindless fun, go H3RE INST3ADZ0RZ!!
Grrr! Fight my Brute, you pansy!
Terrorism involves going out of your way to attack civilians and similar targets.Coyote wrote:Why would attacking a military base not be terrorism? It certainly ould not be for crime because there is very little money to be had...
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Ahh, yes, good point. Attacking a military base would be more akin to Guerrilla Warfare, a la VietCong or some such.Hamel wrote:Terrorism involves going out of your way to attack civilians and similar targets.Coyote wrote:Why would attacking a military base not be terrorism? It certainly ould not be for crime because there is very little money to be had...
Something about Libertarianism always bothered me. Then one day, I realized what it was:
Libertarian philosophy can be boiled down to the phrase, "Work Will Make You Free."
In Libertarianism, there is no Government, so the Bosses are free to exploit the Workers.
In Communism, there is no Government, so the Workers are free to exploit the Bosses.
So in Libertarianism, man exploits man, but in Communism, its the other way around!
If all you want to do is have some harmless, mindless fun, go H3RE INST3ADZ0RZ!!
Grrr! Fight my Brute, you pansy!
Libertarian philosophy can be boiled down to the phrase, "Work Will Make You Free."
In Libertarianism, there is no Government, so the Bosses are free to exploit the Workers.
In Communism, there is no Government, so the Workers are free to exploit the Bosses.
So in Libertarianism, man exploits man, but in Communism, its the other way around!
If all you want to do is have some harmless, mindless fun, go H3RE INST3ADZ0RZ!!
Grrr! Fight my Brute, you pansy!
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Terrorism is just an unconventional military act, and differentiating between unconventional military acts due to their targets -which is not the original meaning of terrorism, rather, by that, we'd be doing it based on the style of warfare (does it induce "terror" - how do we define terror?) being waged - is a ridiculous method of defining something.Hamel wrote: Terrorism involves going out of your way to attack civilians and similar targets.
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Afterall that arguement's been bandied about several times. Particularly in case of any force that can't win in a set piece battle. Not to mention, under his definition, would Japan be guilty of a terrorist action? Rather then a formal act of war in Dec. 1941?
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Tis a good thing there is a sunset clause in Patriot, or I would be asking if a Sith Lord is controlling the congress.
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If they're a) guerillas and b) not on our side (for a given value of "our side"), they're terrorists.The Duchess of Zeon wrote:Terrorism is just an unconventional military act, and differentiating between unconventional military acts due to their targets -which is not the original meaning of terrorism, rather, by that, we'd be doing it based on the style of warfare (does it induce "terror" - how do we define terror?) being waged - is a ridiculous method of defining something.Hamel wrote: Terrorism involves going out of your way to attack civilians and similar targets.
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