TrailerParkJawa wrote:My dad and I were discussing how the Iraqi's could not fight with any amount of skill considering the weapons they had. It seems to be a trait of harsh dictators to have poorly trained militaries.
Police states almost universally have bad armies. An army trained to be a police force isn't very effective on the field. The Nazis and the Soviets were exceptions, but they didn't use their army against the people--they had heavily armed secret police for that.
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Axis Kast wrote:
Woah, man. There's something seriously wrong here if you get so much jollies from self-centered gloating over Internet debates.
It helps when one side is a fucking moron like you are. It's much more
fun for the other side, bitch.
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MKSheppard wrote:
Hahahha, Vympel, go ahead and make Kast your Bitch Again. Tell him
about those brave Iraqi tankers who turned the engines of their T-72s
off
It was a pair of T-62 crews, they knocked out a pair of M1A1's but then where destroyed in turn since firing heated up their gun barrels. A considerable number of T-72 crews did the same, but the commanders made the mistake of keeping their heads out with the hatches open. US tank crews, especially those of the 1/37 armored, spotted them apparently sitting in mid air and aimed low..
"This cult of special forces is as sensible as to form a Royal Corps of Tree Climbers and say that no soldier who does not wear its green hat with a bunch of oak leaves stuck in it should be expected to climb a tree"
— Field Marshal William Slim 1956
Axis Kast wrote:"Knocked out" as in "knocked off a track," or utterly destroyed?
Knock out as in the crews had to bail out because of major damage. Disabling a tank is different from knocking it out of action, which in turn does not always mean destroyed.
"This cult of special forces is as sensible as to form a Royal Corps of Tree Climbers and say that no soldier who does not wear its green hat with a bunch of oak leaves stuck in it should be expected to climb a tree"
— Field Marshal William Slim 1956
Shinova wrote:Guys, so Kast didn't know much about T-55's compared to American vehicles.
So what? Give him a break, for goodness' sake!
How about he doesn't stupid make statements about things he's realty demonstrated he knows little about? That would solve the problem without incorrect information being spread. There's too much idiocy out there already.
"This cult of special forces is as sensible as to form a Royal Corps of Tree Climbers and say that no soldier who does not wear its green hat with a bunch of oak leaves stuck in it should be expected to climb a tree"
— Field Marshal William Slim 1956
How about he doesn't stupid make statements about things he's realty demonstrated he knows little about? That would solve the problem without incorrect information being spread. There's too much idiocy out there already.
Oh, bullshit!
You jumped all over me and you know it. Heck, my statement was correct in the first place: even perfectly-maintained T-55s wouldn't have been able to save Iraq. Their equipment was simply much too ancient to stand up to modern warfare.
The main reason why the armies of a police-state suck, of course, is because dictators tend to have everybody and anybody who may one day lead a coup shot on suspicion —which invariably means decapitating the officer corps of all its veteran combat commanders. Their replacements are usually long on party loyalty and little else.
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