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U.S. Forces Detain Westerners in Iraq
Sep 16, 2:02 PM (ET)
By TAREK AL-ISSAWI
ABU GHRAIB, Iraq (AP) - Six people claiming to be Americans and two who say they are British are in U.S. custody on suspicion of involvement in attacks on coalition forces, an American general said Tuesday. They would be the first Westerners reported held in the insurrection against the U.S.-led occupation.
Brig. Gen. Janis Karpinski, who is in charge of coalition detention centers in Iraq, said the alleged Americans and Britons were considered security detainees, meaning they were suspected of involvement in guerrilla attacks. She did not identify the purported Westerners but said they were being interrogated by military intelligence.
When pressed for details about those being held, she declined to give any other information.
"We're not trying to withhold information from you. Some information remains classified for security reasons," Karpinski said during a tour of Abu Ghraib prison, where Saddam Hussein locked up his political opponents and where the eight are in custody.
Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld, at a Pentagon news conference, said he did not information on these detainees, but that many of those picked up in Iraq have multiple identifications and "it takes a little time to sort these things out."
If Westerners are actively involved in the resistance, it would deepen confusion about what groups are involved. Initially, the guerrilla fighters were thought to be Saddam loyalists, but in recent weeks U.S. officials have said they are being joined by foreign fighters, possibly members of the al-Qaida terror network.
The revelation recalls the capture of John Walker Lindh in Afghanistan, where the American fought alongside Taliban and al-Qaida fighters following the Sept. 11, 2001 attacks.
Lindh was sentenced last year to 20 years in prison after pleading guilty to supplying services to the Taliban militia, which ruled Afghanistan and was ousted by a U.S.-led coalition.
American troops in Afghanistan also captured Yaser Esam Hamdi, who was flown to the U.S. Navy base at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, and held there for several months until it was discovered he was born in Baton Rouge, La. He is being held in a naval brig in Norfolk, Va.
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At least nine Britons are being detained in Guantanamo, where some 660 men from 42 countries are being held on suspicion of links to the Taliban or al-Qaida. None of the men has been charged and some have been held for nearly two years without access to lawyers.
Lt. Col. Pamela Hart, a spokeswoman for the mission in Guantanamo, said Tuesday that none of the detainees being held there were captured in Iraq.
Meanwhile, U.S. troops of the 4th Infantry Division killed two Iraqis and wounded two others in a gunbattle late Monday outside an ammunition dump in Tikrit. Another man was captured and two others fled after the apparent attempt to loot the depot, division spokeswoman Maj. Josslyn Aberle said.
In addition to the gunbattle in Tikrit, U.S. officials said troops of the 4th Infantry Division carried out 242 patrols in three provinces late Monday, including 24 jointly with Iraqi security forces. Twenty-eight Iraqis were arrested.
They included two people taken prisoner in Samarra during a raid in which 13 sticks of plastic explosives were seized along with blasting caps and nine mortar rounds, officials said.
Insurgents have also targeted Iraqis who work with coalition forces. On Monday, the police chief in the Sunni Muslim town of Khaldiya was killed in a roadside ambush as he was returning to his home in Fallujah, scene of growing criminal violence and guerrilla resistance to the American occupation of Iraq.
The attacks on Iraqis, including the brazen shooting of Col. Khedeir Mekhalef Ali, the police chief, were thought to be undermining U.S. efforts to build local police and militia structures to take over security in the region, where support for Saddam remains strongest.
It was unclear whether Ali's slaying was politically motivated. His shooting came three days after the mistaken killing of eight Iraqi policemen by U.S. forces in the worst friendly fire incident since major fighting ended in Iraq. Those shootings happened just outside Fallujah shortly after midnight Friday.
The U.S. military and civilian administrator for Iraq, L. Paul Bremer, have apologized for the friendly fire incident and said it was under investigation.
Traitorious scum!
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Traitorious scum!
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"The present air situation in the Pacific is entirely the result of fighting a fifth rate air power." - U.S. Navy Memo - 24 July 1944
I wonder what happened to this sterling individual who gave himself up in March?
If he did get back to Britain, I'm amazed that the tabloids didn't savage the fuck out of him.
If he did get back to Britain, I'm amazed that the tabloids didn't savage the fuck out of him.
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I can't for the life of me figure out why a Westerner would go to Iraq to kill Westerners, I really can't.
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I suspect most would be second generation immigrants with fundamentalistic leanings rather than lost upper class brats like JWL.
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Just saw the article debunked.
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Where? And it seems my websever is being overloaded by HAB sigs...Vympel wrote:Just saw the article debunked.
"If scientists and inventors who develop disease cures and useful technologies don't get lifetime royalties, I'd like to know what fucking rationale you have for some guy getting lifetime royalties for writing an episode of Full House." - Mike Wong
"The present air situation in the Pacific is entirely the result of fighting a fifth rate air power." - U.S. Navy Memo - 24 July 1944
"The present air situation in the Pacific is entirely the result of fighting a fifth rate air power." - U.S. Navy Memo - 24 July 1944