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My political views (The major ones):
1. against affirmative action
2. Pro choice
3. against big government
4. for big military
5. Pro GOOD E-FUCKING-CONOMY
What does that make me?
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Chardok wrote:My political views (The major ones):
1. against affirmative action
2. Pro choice
3. against big government
4. for big military
5. Pro GOOD E-FUCKING-CONOMY
What does that make me?
Liberal Republican, most likely. I don't know if your views are quite libertarian.
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Well, it's nice to know that I do not neatly fit into any one category. What about you all? what're your view on my major topics?
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Chardok wrote:Well, it's nice to know that I do not neatly fit into any one category. What about you all? what're your view on my major topics?
1. Against Affirmative Action
2. Abortion only if the mother is at serious medical risk or after rape
3. Against big government
4. For big military
5. Pro good economy (what red blooded capitalist swine isn't? ;))
6. Pro-gun
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1) Penis
2) Vagina
3) Regulated capitalism
4) National health care of some sort
5) Free ice cream for all
6) Pro gay marriage
7) Big butt
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Nathan F wrote:
Chardok wrote:Well, it's nice to know that I do not neatly fit into any one category. What about you all? what're your view on my major topics?
1. Against Affirmative Action
2. Abortion only if the mother is at serious medical risk or after rape
3. Against big government
4. For big military
5. Pro good economy (what red blooded capitalist swine isn't? ;))
6. Pro-gun
Oh, and Christian.
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Durran Korr wrote:
Chardok wrote:My political views (The major ones):
1. against affirmative action
2. Pro choice
3. against big government
4. for big military
5. Pro GOOD E-FUCKING-CONOMY
What does that make me?
Liberal Republican, most likely. I don't know if your views are quite libertarian.
I'd say he's more of a Conservative Libertarian. :)
1)Libertarian/Conservatie stance
2)Libertarian/Liberal stance
3)Libertarian/Conservative stance
4)Conservative stance, some Libertarian
5)Everyone :)
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Nathan F wrote:
Nathan F wrote:
Chardok wrote:Well, it's nice to know that I do not neatly fit into any one category. What about you all? what're your view on my major topics?
1. Against Affirmative Action
2. Abortion only if the mother is at serious medical risk or after rape
3. Against big government
4. For big military
5. Pro good economy (what red blooded capitalist swine isn't? ;))
6. Pro-gun
Oh, and Christian.
Whoo! That makes two of us.
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1. against Affirmative Action
2. against abortion, save for cases of rape, incest, and life-threatening necessity
3. against unnecessary government spending (including farm subsidies, steel subsidies, etc.)
4. against income redistribution (ie. social security, welfare, etc.)
5. in favor of a strong defense, opposed to "pork-barrel" bases
6. for a flat tax
7. pro-bill of rights (pro-gun, pro-free-speech, pro-establishment clause, etc.)
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Hamel wrote:1) Penis
2) Vagina
3) Regulated capitalism
4) National health care of some sort
5) Free ice cream for all
6) Pro gay marriage
7) Big butt
Erm...what? :?
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Chardok wrote:My political views (The major ones):
1. against affirmative action
2. Pro choice
3. against big government
4. for big military
5. Pro GOOD E-FUCKING-CONOMY
What does that make me?
1,3, and 4 are right wing beliefs. Although, in practice, both Dems and Repubs are close to the same on those issues. 2 is left wing belief, but the Repubs will never touch abortion.

If you want to explore your beliefs more, think about these:
1)Is the government intrinsically bad, or merely inefficient?

2)Is all government bad, or is only the Federal Gov't bad and it's OK for local governments (states, counties, cities) to take a more proactive role.

3)Do you want a big military to sit around, to destroy any potential enemies (North Korea), or to help other counties (Liberia).

4)How should the economy be improved? Should experts plan out growth in detail (massive gov't involvement), or should government stay out of the way?

5)Should the government be allowed to do at least a few things to regulate the market?

6)Was it wrong for the US to support dictatorships if that helped the Cold War, WWII, etc?

7)What should be the guiding principles behind foreign policy? To improve life at home, to spread our ideals, to help others, or to leave others alone?

8)You want a small government. What about NASA? What about the roads? What about education? Keep in mind that the US isn't a dictatorship--getting your pet project means that others will end up getting their own pet projects and the government won't be so small.

9)Should the government take at least some actions to help the poor?

10)Do businesses have your best interests at heart (either directly, or indirectly through the "invisible hand" effect of capitalism)?

11)Does religion have any place in society? In government?

12)Guns?

13)Gitmo?

14)Death penalty?
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CelesKnight wrote:
1)Is the government intrinsically bad, or merely inefficient?
Hmm...good one. I suppose I would have to say inefficient. the way I see it, Governemt is WAAAY too driven by special interests, and it's getting worse. Many rich groups are getting richer, drowning out the voices of regular folk.
CelesKnight wrote:2)Is all government bad, or is only the Federal Gov't bad and it's OK for local governments (states, counties, cities) to take a more proactive role.


I would have to say I feel the federal government is not necessarily bad, just misguided.
CelesKnight wrote:3)Do you want a big military to sit around, to destroy any potential enemies (North Korea), or to help other counties (Liberia).
I want a big military as a deterrent, mostly. #1 it provides alot of jobs that alot of people otherwise couldn't get.
Then to destroy enemies foolish enough to trifle with my big military. (I'm not against conscription, either.)
CelesKnight wrote:4)How should the economy be improved? Should experts plan out growth in detail (massive gov't involvement), or should government stay out of the way?
I think a small amount of regulation is necessary, if for no other reason than to keep us from growing three arms from chems and shit in our water.
*dons flameshield*
I want to see the "Dot com" boom again. Those were good times.
CelesKnight wrote:5)Should the government be allowed to do at least a few things to regulate the market?
see above :wink:
CelesKnight wrote:6)Was it wrong for the US to support dictatorships if that helped the Cold War, WWII, etc?
No, it's not wrong. Who is the U.S. to decide what makes a good and what makes a bad dictator, aside from GROSS human rights violations? See Pervez Musharraf, as far as I know, the guy is doing fairly well, popularly speaking, though I could use some education on that issue. Humans ARE inherently evil, though, power drives men mad. (I'm jaded, BACK OFF!!! :) )
CelesKnight wrote:7)What should be the guiding principles behind foreign policy? To improve life at home, to spread our ideals, to help others, or to leave others alone?
To improve life at home. Everyone else can have a nice day. (If they don't like it, I send my big military out to kill them. *JOKING! :wink: )
CelesKnight wrote:8)You want a small government. What about NASA? What about the roads? What about education? Keep in mind that the US isn't a dictatorship--getting your pet project means that others will end up getting their own pet projects and the government won't be so small.
Okay, I see your point. Can't have lots of beneficial goverment programs without lots of government (Correct me if I misunderstood) Programs like NASA and the like are EXTREMELY beneficial, as I see it. Looking at the HUGE picture, Earth isn't going to last forever. We need to figure out how to get the fuck off this rock someday.
CelesKnight wrote:9)Should the government take at least some actions to help the poor?
Yeah, I guess so. After all, SOME people are legitimately unable to score a job. Many are just lazy slugs. Hell, almost ANYone can get a job at McD's and contribute SOMEthing to the economy.
CelesKnight wrote:10)Do businesses have your best interests at heart (either directly, or indirectly through the "invisible hand" effect of capitalism)?
No. Businesses exist to serve the interests of the shareholders/CEOs, Etc. they exists because of capitalism, and capitalism is perpetuated by their existence. One of those circle of Life kinds of things :wink:
but that's good, I think. Get what you can while you're here, I say.
CelesKnight wrote:11)Does religion have any place in society? In government?
Society, yes. Government, no. Governments have an obligation to remain objective, especially in the case of a democracy. In the case of a dictatorship, however...
CelesKnight wrote:12)Guns?
Abso-freakin-lutely. (I'm very ignorant about gun control laws, however, so I won't elaborate.)
CelesKnight wrote:13)Gitmo?
I don't know what that is. But it has a neat ring to it. Yes. :wink:
________edit__________
Are you referring to Guantanamo bay? If so, I'm not sure, some of them certainly deserve to rot there....others....I don't know...
CelesKnight wrote:14)Death penalty?
Swift and without mercy. None of this "Ten years on death row with ten million appeals and five-hundred thousand stays of execution bullshit. You get sentenced to death, you die on the date set. no more than two years. You'd better hope some new evidence is found to prove your innocence or at the very least cast reasonable doubt. otherwise, prepare to become part of the "Circle Of Life". Harsh? Yeah, I guess. But you asked! :)


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Whenever someone creates a test like this, there is always the danger that the author inserted his own bias into it. ("Do you hate poverty, war, and aggression? You do? Well obviously your a natural Moonie! Stop by today for more info.") The same goes for when I analyze your results. I have nothing to compare you to, except for my own opinion of what makes a conservative, liberal, etc.

With that in mind, since your first post was mostly conservative or libertarian, I tried to create a set of questions that would 1) see if you're still conservative or libertarian and 2)see where on the conservative to libertarian line you fell.

Chardok wrote:
CelesKnight wrote:
1)Is the government intrinsically bad, or merely inefficient?
Hmm...good one. I suppose I would have to say inefficient. the way I see it, Governemt is WAAAY too driven by special interests, and it's getting worse. Many rich groups are getting richer, drowning out the voices of regular folk.
Sounds conservative. Libertarians think gov't is intrinsically evil. Liberals like government in general.

BTW, while Rebublicans are portrayed as the party for the rich, it's interesting to see how much of their support comes from the middle class and upper middle class (people who donate $50). Compaired to the Dems, who get a lot of support from the ultra rich (people who donate millions at a time.) Of course, both are guilty of pandering to special interests at times.
Chardok wrote:
CelesKnight wrote:2)Is all government bad, or is only the Federal Gov't bad and it's OK for local governments (states, counties, cities) to take a more proactive role.


I would have to say I feel the federal government is not necessarily bad, just misguided.
Well, OK. Actually, what I was aiming for was your opinion if local governments can pass regulations that you wouldn't want to see the federal government pass. I.e. is it OK for a state to, say, criminalize porn (or legalize prostitution, etc) even though we might not want the Federal government.

This doesn't directly apply to any political party, but generally speaking conservatives don't want interference from the federal government, but don't mind it from the local gov't (after all, it's easy to move). Libertarians hate interference at any level. I don't know of any official liberal position, but from talking with liberals, I think that they support regulations at the federal level over level (the ideal being that locals are racist, homophobic, overly religious, etc).
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CelesKnight wrote:3)Do you want a big military to sit around, to destroy any potential enemies (North Korea), or to help other counties (Liberia).
I want a big military as a deterrent, mostly. #1 it provides alot of jobs that alot of people otherwise couldn't get.
Then to destroy enemies foolish enough to trifle with my big military. (I'm not against conscription, either.)
Moderate stance. Actually, for this question, I wasn't aiming for your political party, but your foreign policy philosophy. Walter Russel Mead wrote a book entitled Special Province were he lays out four foreign policy philosophies that have dominated American for centuries. Jeffersonaians want to leave others alone. Hamilitonian wants to do anything to protect and grow US business interests. Wilsonians want to spread US ideals and help others. Jacksonians are populist who want to mostly leave others alone, but smack them down whenever they threaten us. In general, I would say that your a Jacksonian.
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CelesKnight wrote:4)How should the economy be improved? Should experts plan out growth in detail (massive gov't involvement), or should government stay out of the way?
I think a small amount of regulation is necessary, if for no other reason than to keep us from growing three arms from chems and shit in our water.
*dons flameshield*
I want to see the "Dot com" boom again. Those were good times.

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A pretty moderate stance. I was simply trying to see if you were on any extremes of libertarians or socialist.
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CelesKnight wrote:5)Should the government be allowed to do at least a few things to regulate the market?
see above :wink:
CelesKnight wrote:6)Was it wrong for the US to support dictatorships if that helped the Cold War, WWII, etc?
No, it's not wrong. Who is the U.S. to decide what makes a good and what makes a bad dictator, aside from GROSS human rights violations? See Pervez Musharraf, as far as I know, the guy is doing fairly well,

popularly speaking, though I could use some education on that issue.

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That's pretty moderate within the US. I suspect that it seems extreme to Europeans. And to the far-left like Chomskey and Michael Parenti.
Chardok wrote: Humans ARE inherently evil, though, power drives men mad. (I'm jaded,
BACK OFF!!! :) )

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Conservative. (Or perhaps not so much conservative as just "not liberal").
Yeah, I guess so. After all, SOME people are legitimately unable to score a job. Many are just lazy slugs. Hell, almost ANYone can get a job at McD's and contribute SOMEthing to the economy.

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Conservative belief, but williness to compramise it a bit for the practical realities of the world.

I've got to go to class soon, so I'm not going to specifically comment on any more. With the exception of abortion, your beliefs are pretty conservative... far right on some things. I don't think that you quite fit the profile of a libertarian. You might actually be further to the right than the day-to-day policies of the Republican party. But, you don't mind compromising your beliefs when needed, so you would probably fit in fine with the Repubs.

I should point out that I'm a Republican, and hence may be biased.

If you want to learn more about the right-wing beliefs (see if they're really for you, so to speak) you might want to read some books by Dinesh D'Souza or Sean Hannity. Or visit the wnd .com and townhall .com

But, as much as I would hate to see anyone become a liberal, it's always useful to read more about the left-wing as well. You might like what you see. Or, you might look at it and say "Those f*cking idiots!"
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thank you so much for your insights. I really appreciate it and will think about my views more deeply another time...I look forward to more discussions later! :)
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Chardok wrote:thank you so much for your insights. I really appreciate it and will think about my views more deeply another time...I look forward to more discussions later! :)
No prob. BTW, yes gitmo meant Guantonimo Bay Cuba.
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You sound like a moderate-conservative, Chardok.
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Nathan F wrote:You sound like a moderate-conservative, Chardok.
Almost forgot, what's your address and I will send you the application papers for the Vast Right Wing Conspiracy. :lol: :wink:
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*ducks*
Pulls out his fully automatic, illegally shortened combat shotgun.
**DIE RIGHT WINGER!**
::Send his legions of pro-life fodder out to destroy the vast right winger::
::Gets caught by the police and id promptly put to death::


(I thought about letting this turn into a political TGOD, but alas....)
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Probusiness, except on copyrights

Want to increase patent terms for drugs, but force lowering of prices

Make copyrights on print media 20 years, music 15 years, DVDs 10 years, and software 5. It makes no logic whatsoever that real patents get shorter terms than copyrights. Stuff no longer in print should be public domain.

1-2 year patent terms on software, or none at all.

Legalized abortion, drugs, blah blah.

Kill SS and welfare, and have the resulting lower taxes allow the states to implement their own.

Pro gun rights

No opinion on military, leave that to Skimmer

Strict seperation of church and state, no "faith based charities"

Enforcement of current environmental regulations, but don't go overboard by adding more.

Term limits on politicians

Maybe get rid of income tax- transfer to sales tax

More funding for science

Build more nuke plants.

Against affirmative action

No pork barrel projects- federal money for stuff that benefits entire nation only

Atheist

Pro gay marriage

Kill patriot act

Leave education funding to states

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