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Durran Korr wrote:
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Durran Korr wrote:I prefer "fucktard," myself. In fact I've gotten many people to adopt that word.
Oh yes, fucktard is a truly excellent insult. Totally self-explanatory, too.
Was that an invention of here or ASVS? I honestly haven't heard it used anywhere else.
I heard it way back in gradeschool, so I'd assume neither.
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Durran Korr wrote:
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Durran Korr wrote:I prefer "fucktard," myself. In fact I've gotten many people to adopt that word.
Oh yes, fucktard is a truly excellent insult. Totally self-explanatory, too.
Was that an invention of here or ASVS? I honestly haven't heard it used anywhere else.
It was quite common on ASVS circa the second appearance of Guardian 2000. So I'd guess if we didn't invent it, we stole it from some other group and set fire to them.
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SirNitram wrote:
Durran Korr wrote:
Darth Wong wrote: Oh yes, fucktard is a truly excellent insult. Totally self-explanatory, too.
Was that an invention of here or ASVS? I honestly haven't heard it used anywhere else.
It was quite common on ASVS circa the second appearance of Guardian 2000. So I'd guess if we didn't invent it, we stole it from some other group and set fire to them.
How does a thread about neocons become a discussion on the origin of an insult?
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Steve wrote: How does a thread about neocons become a discussion on the origin of an insult?
This is ASVS/SDN after all....

Now, we only need to steer it onto anal sex
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MKSheppard wrote:
Steve wrote: How does a thread about neocons become a discussion on the origin of an insult?
This is ASVS/SDN after all....

Now, we only need to steer it onto anal sex
Personally I'm not a fan of it. Not really my thing. I much prefer lesbian three-ways.
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Ender wrote:
MKSheppard wrote:
Steve wrote: How does a thread about neocons become a discussion on the origin of an insult?
This is ASVS/SDN after all....

Now, we only need to steer it onto anal sex
Personally I'm not a fan of it. Not really my thing. I much prefer lesbian three-ways.
Well a three way can easly involve anal sex..in fact, in a MMF three way, where the males are gay/bi, anal would be advantagous for some proper fun. Naturally the female involved might also enjoy it.
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Here's a pathetic neo-con doing his very best to imitate Ann Coulter.
Washington Times

October 17, 2003

Pg. 21



Six Enemies Of Freedom



By Martin L. Gross



Once again, as we have since 1917, America is heavily engaged in its altruistic efforts to save the world. We have conquered German militarism, Fascist Italy and Japan, Nazi Germany, then the brutal conspiracy of the Soviet Union, creating the structure for world peace and prosperity. The past and future of the world is in the capable hands of the United States, now as before.



Our latest effort to secure a decent life for the entire planet now brings us into a new conflict, the defeat of the extremist Muslim world with its capability for suicide bombing and other terrorist acts, whether in Iraq, or Indonesia, or Afghanistan, or Israel, or in America * warfare being conducted by hostile elements in Iraq, Syria, Iran and elsewhere.



This worldwide war against extremist Muslims is only now beginning to be recognized by free peoples as one that must be fought as assiduously as World War I, or World War II or the Cold War. In the final analysis, we won them all, with only a few backward states holding out, temporarily. The score is heavily in our favor. We have freed some 60 nations in the span of the last 60 years, a record of superb achievement.



Now, we are engaged in another broad conflict. We have some allies, but we have an equal number of enemies who are dedicated in their desire to stop our efforts for peace and freedom.



In fact, I have catalogued six of them, all working feverishly to thwart this latest effort to free the world from tyranny. The six enemies are:



(1) The Muslim extremists, who after falling several centuries behind the West, falsely believe terrorism against America will restore their former glory, a pathetic piece of illogic and misinterpretation of the Koran, which will only result in their eventual defeat.



(2) The majority of the Muslim nations, whose governments are not extremist, but which are focusing their energies on the hopeless task of defeating Israel rather than on their true mission of developing democracy and technology. These are present failures that will ensure continuation of the poverty and ignorance of their peoples. Like Japan in the 1850s, they must turn their back on their traditional ways. They must join America in creating an open-minded tolerant Western society, the only hope for their peoples' future.



(3) The Europeans, whose major nations have lost touch with the modern world, and are retreating into the narrow-mindedness that spawned fascism, Nazism and communism on their soil before American freed them. Out of stymied progress, continual unemployment of more than 10 percent and perpetual near-recession, they are becoming increasingly envious of their savior, America. Their national judgment has always been suspect, a lack of wisdom that harbored tyranny, only to be rescued three times by America's altruism. The American political soul is deeper than that of the Europeans, a fact that galls them, resulting in anti-Americanism. By contrast, the newer nations of Europe, only recently freed from communism, understand the blessings American foreign policy brings to the world.



(4) France is a special case, a particularly near-psychotic enemy, which not only has shown ingratitude but has developed a fervent anti-Americanism based upon its failure as a world influence. Once the center of culture and intellect, France now is in the position of the Arab world of the 13th century, when their arrogance and anti-Christianity set the stage for the fall of the Muslim empire that had conquered half the civilized world. The same is now true of France, whose contributions to the world * intellectually, culturally, and scientifically * have virtually ceased, while America's continue to grow each year. Their envy will be their downfall. In fact, a recent book by a Frenchman, "La France Qui Tombe," or "France Which is Falling," has become a best-seller in that frightened, paralyzed nation.



(5) The American Media. This home-grown enemy has become more than a loud nuisance ever since reporters gained fame and fortune exposing Watergate. Much of the American media have now positioned themselves as adversaries of the national government and its policies, including the wars against tyranny in Iraq and Afghanistan. This animosity, which gains prestige points among other journalists, has grown, fostered by peer pressure and by the anti-American propaganda would-be journalists ingest in both liberal arts colleges and schools of journalism. Many faculty members at such schools pride themselves on objecting to American foreign policy.



So, rather than the media * with certain exceptions * treating the long-range war against Muslim extremism with objectivity, our every action is portrayed as failure, and worse. When the going in Iraq was tough in the first few days, the media pointed that up, with apparent glee. When the tide turned in our favor, the press quickly hailed the military. When the guerrilla war began in Iraq, they once again defiled our efforts. Fortunately, much of the America media that has twisted the truth to back its false ideology will be shown as shallow and propagandistic when America eventually succeeds in its goal of peace in Middle Asia.



(6) Perhaps the most dangerous enemy America faces today is much of the leadership of the Democratic Party * anti-national elements within our body politic. As a former official of the once-patriotic Democratic Party, it is obvious that anti-Americans are at the helm of that party, as witnessed by the actions of the 10 candidates for president, all of whom are giving comfort to the enemy. By 1972, anti-Americans had taken over much of the machinery * if not the average voters * of the Democratic Party, as witnessed by the presidential nomination of Sen. George McGovern, whose plan to confront the Soviet Union was to cut our defense budget by one-third. Today, those defeatist sentiments are echoed by all 10 candidates for the presidency, including retired Army Gen. Wesley Clark, who supported the effort until his ambitions tarnished his soul. Until that party has returned to its patriotic past as exemplified by Harry Truman, America and the world will not be safe.



America must be concerned, but must not panic before the onslaught of its enemies. History tells us the altruism and beneficent nature of America will eventually defeat all six enemies, just as it has vanquished others in the past.



Martin L. Gross, syndicated columnist, is the author of a dozen books on politics and government, including three New York Times best sellers.
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MKSheppard wrote:
Steve wrote: How does a thread about neocons become a discussion on the origin of an insult?
This is ASVS/SDN after all....

Now, we only need to steer it onto anal sex
Well, we could just combine the ass hat and the hatfucker...
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Drooling Iguana wrote:
MKSheppard wrote:
Steve wrote: How does a thread about neocons become a discussion on the origin of an insult?
This is ASVS/SDN after all....

Now, we only need to steer it onto anal sex
Well, we could just combine the ass hat and the hatfucker...
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Newtonian Fury wrote:Here's a pathetic neo-con doing his very best to imitate Ann Coulter.
Washington Times wrote:
October 17, 2003

Pg. 21



Six Enemies Of Freedom
snip severe bullshit
I can picture him now, spanking away moaning "the world is America, the world is ohhhh Ann Coulter!"
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Alyrium Denryle wrote:
Drooling Iguana wrote:
MKSheppard wrote: This is ASVS/SDN after all....

Now, we only need to steer it onto anal sex
Well, we could just combine the ass hat and the hatfucker...
Asshatfucker?
Well, I was thinking more along the lines of putting an asshat and a hatfucker in a room togeather and seeing what develops.
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Coyote wrote:
Drooling Iguana wrote:
Simon H.Johansen wrote:What is a hatfucker?? Somebody who has sex with a hat?
People around here just like to combine swear words with hats in order to produce new insults. Just a little while ago, everyone was calling people they don't like "asshats." Don't try to understand it, just smile and nod...
Besides, it is like calling someone beyond useless. I mean, think about it-- a hat for your ass? What's the point?

I mean, unless you're thinking of "Depends", which is another category of insult...
ok, image they have their head where?

ahh so there as is theit hat, ok....
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as for hatfucker that;s just someone who doesn't use kleenex and shoots hsi limp load into a hat and then wears it.
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The Washington Times flung that bullshit on a page? Ugh.
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Newtonian Fury wrote:Here's a pathetic neo-con doing his very best to imitate Ann Coulter.
(3) The Europeans, whose major nations have lost touch with the modern world, and are retreating into the narrow-mindedness that spawned fascism, Nazism and communism on their soil before American freed them. Out of stymied progress, continual unemployment of more than 10 percent and perpetual near-recession, they are becoming increasingly envious of their savior, America. Their national judgment has always been suspect, a lack of wisdom that harbored tyranny, only to be rescued three times by America's altruism. The American political soul is deeper than that of the Europeans, a fact that galls them, resulting in anti-Americanism. By contrast, the newer nations of Europe, only recently freed from communism, understand the blessings American foreign policy brings to the world.
Not even Ann Coulter would sound that silly and overblownly jingoistic.

BTW - according to neocon "logic" which dictates "if you are against the US government you hate the land of America and its inhabitants", then I could go ahead and accuse people of hating all North Koreans if they oppose Kim Jong-il.
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Seriously though, reading that load of shit again- it sounds like satire.
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Alyrium Denryle wrote:
Drooling Iguana wrote:
MKSheppard wrote: This is ASVS/SDN after all....

Now, we only need to steer it onto anal sex
Well, we could just combine the ass hat and the hatfucker...
Asshatfucker?
Needs to be longer, like "dumbasshatfucker".

As for the topic on hand, people like him and Ann Coulter make you think: Are people on the left and the right trying to find the most dishonest and ignorant person to be one of their pundits?
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Needs to be longer, like "dumbasshatfucker".

As for the topic on hand, people like him and Ann Coulter make you think: Are people on the left and the right trying to find the most dishonest and ignorant person to be one of their pundits?
The American left does not have an equivalent to Mann Coulter. Going on a related tangent: I've heard people comparing Moore to Coulter even though they aren't even close in terms of visciousness and venom. When Moore says something along the line of...

"When contemplating college conservatives, you really regret once again that McVeigh is not getting the death penalty. We need to execute people like McVeigh in order to physically intimidate conservatives, by making them realize that they can be killed, too. Otherwise, they will turn out to be outright traitors."

...then someone could truthfully make the comparison. And yes, I know McVeigh has nothing to do with college conservatives, just using fallacious atrribution with McVeigh like Coulter attributed Walker to liberals.
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Oh, I dunno, I kinda saw Moore as the counter to Limbaugh-- both are boorish and talk in foolish soundbites and snippy comments without thinking through their positions; both are pushing themselves as pundits of the blue-collar worker, both treat anyone who disagrees with them as a blind naive fool, etc....
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At least, unlike many of the Hollywood liberal crowd, Moore is putting his money where his mouth is, and donating $2,000 to any Democratic challenger whose supporters make to him a convincing argument why that candidate can beat their incumbent Republican opponent in the 2004 election.
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Coyote wrote:Oh, I dunno, I kinda saw Moore as the counter to Limbaugh-- both are boorish and talk in foolish soundbites and snippy comments without thinking through their positions; both are pushing themselves as pundits of the blue-collar worker, both treat anyone who disagrees with them as a blind naive fool, etc....
Also, they are both rather heavy.
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