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Soy linked to male infertility and sexual dysfunction in male offspring when consumed by pregnant women. APL members rejoice! :twisted:
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i always knew there was a reason i avoided soy like the plague. . . .
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And if that doesn't convince you: http://www.mercola.com/article/soy/
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BoredShirtless wrote:And if that doesn't convince you: http://www.mercola.com/article/soy/
That's an anti-soy scare-page by a guy who calls himself the author of the "No-Grain Diet." Sounds like the guy has an agenda. Not only that, but elsewhere on his site he espouses "Thought Field Therapy".
Link to it

Honestly, soy is eaten in large quantities by the Japanese, and I don't exactly see them all falling over dead with these horrible problems. In fact, you might notice that the life expectancy is one of the highest in the world.
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I'm taking this with a very large quantity of salt. Very large indeed.

And on the off-chance there is some truth to all that, why should anyone be rejoicing? Soy products are in practically everything.
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*sits patiently and waits for morons to develop the 'dip your balls in soy sauce' method of birth control.
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Mayabird wrote:
BoredShirtless wrote:And if that doesn't convince you: http://www.mercola.com/article/soy/
That's an anti-soy scare-page by a guy who calls himself the author of the "No-Grain Diet." Sounds like the guy has an agenda. Not only that, but elsewhere on his site he espouses "Thought Field Therapy".
Link to it

Honestly, soy is eaten in large quantities by the Japanese, and I don't exactly see them all falling over dead with these horrible problems. In fact, you might notice that the life expectancy is one of the highest in the world.
Exactly, this worried me for a momenet until I realized something. I considered all the places in the world who make use of soy and soy-based products. None, to my knowledge are well known for low birth rates or infertility.

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Okay, so much for the VI's evidence, but what about the OP?
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Col. Crackpot wrote:*sits patiently and waits for morons to develop the 'dip your balls in soy sauce' method of birth control.
Maybe that explains my low sperm count.
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On a closely related subject: Are there any meat substitutes which are not soy-based?
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Rogue 9 wrote:Okay, so much for the VI's evidence, but what about the OP?
One said that pregnant rats who were fed a chemical in soybeans had male offspring with ejaculation problems. It does not say exactly how much of this chemical the females were fed. The other was one of those vaguely worded "This may cause a problem" things similar to the "bread may cause cancer" and so on. Seeing as I've read articles claiming that practically everything "may cause cancer/infertility/etc." I want something a little bit more definate before changing my diet. Nothing in either seemed all that bothersome to me.
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Mayabird wrote:
BoredShirtless wrote:And if that doesn't convince you: http://www.mercola.com/article/soy/
That's an anti-soy scare-page by a guy who calls himself the author of the "No-Grain Diet." Sounds like the guy has an agenda. Not only that, but elsewhere on his site he espouses "Thought Field Therapy".
Link to it

Honestly, soy is eaten in large quantities by the Japanese, and I don't exactly see them all falling over dead with these horrible problems. In fact, you might notice that the life expectancy is one of the highest in the world.
You claim Mercola is a crackpot, yet you contradict his thoughts on soy. Either that's because you didn't read them, or you didn't understand them. Hint: he makes a distinction between the soy products consumed in Asian and Western countries.
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Oddysseus wrote:
Mayabird wrote:
BoredShirtless wrote:And if that doesn't convince you: http://www.mercola.com/article/soy/
That's an anti-soy scare-page by a guy who calls himself the author of the "No-Grain Diet." Sounds like the guy has an agenda. Not only that, but elsewhere on his site he espouses "Thought Field Therapy".
Link to it

Honestly, soy is eaten in large quantities by the Japanese, and I don't exactly see them all falling over dead with these horrible problems. In fact, you might notice that the life expectancy is one of the highest in the world.
Exactly, this worried me for a momenet until I realized something. I considered all the places in the world who make use of soy and soy-based products. None, to my knowledge are well known for low birth rates or infertility.

Just a nutter.
He may be a nut, but not on soya.
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You do of course realise that soy is used in a whole heck of a lot of foods and not just meat-alternatives?

I call bullshit on the majority of these claims because I've heard soy dangers mentioned before and nothing radical done about them.
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BoredShirtless wrote: You claim Mercola is a crackpot, yet you contradict his thoughts on soy. Either that's because you didn't read them, or you didn't understand them. Hint: he makes a distinction between the soy products consumed in Asian and Western countries.
Right I didn't understand his claims that Asians didn't REALLY eat soy all those centuries and don't eat that much now. :roll:

No, he's not a nut on soya. He's definately a nut on something MUCH stronger than that.
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Rogue 9 wrote:Soy linked to male infertility and sexual dysfunction in male offspring when consumed by pregnant women. APL members rejoice! :twisted:
It is one thing to personally favor regular meats and dairy over soy, but to take joy in the fact that people may have been eating a possibly dangerous product is just plain sick.
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Wicked Pilot wrote:It is one thing to personally favor regular meats and dairy over soy, but to take joy in the fact that people may have been eating a possibly dangerous product is just plain sick.
Dude this is SD.Net, We're defined by the fact that we're just plain sick.
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Col. Crackpot wrote:*sits patiently and waits for morons to develop the 'dip your balls in soy sauce' method of birth control.
:lol: Only on SDnet. Any other applications for the stuff?
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And speaking of soy sauce, how the heck am I supposed to eat my fried rice without soy sauce?
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