ShareReactor is no more...

Vertigo1 · Post by **Vertigo1** » 2004-03-26 03:05am

http://www.afterdawn.com/news/archive/5085.cfm

AfterDawn wrote:ShareReactor shut down by Swiss authorities

16 March 2004 19:53 by dRD
Well-known P2P site ShareReactor has been apparently shut down by the Swiss authorities. According to news sources, Swiss Judical Inquiry Department of Thurgau has shut down the site due copyright infringements. The site was probably the world's largest site that listed direct links to pirated material in P2P networks, using so-called ed2k links that work with eDonkey2000-compatible clients (such as eMule).

The press release by the Swiss Judical Inquiry Department of Thurgau, translated by an individual third party:

Internet-Site taken offline

FRAUENFELD (kapo) Due to the suspicion of breach of copyright and trademark laws the cantonal judicial Inquiry department of Thurgau has taken down an Internet-Site that served as a link platform for filesharing offerings. A process concerning these matters against the 25 year old owner from Frauenfeld is underway.

The Internet-Site located in Frauenfeld was online for about 30 months and last had over 220.000 hits per day bevor it was taken offline by the Thurgau officials. The in search engines toprated site worked as a anchorpoint for links to downloads of copyright and trademark protectet games and movies that were offered on the filesharing network.

After a complaint from several large corporations, represented by the swiss association against piracy, the cantonal judicial inquiry department of Thurgau initiated an investigation, seized the servers in Frauenfeld and had the site taken offline.

The responsible owner, a 25 year old swiss proved to be very cooperative in explaining matters at hand. The inquiries continue and will take some time.

Ernst Vogelsanger

According to Slyck.com, also the ed2k stats site Jigle.com has been shut down, but by the author of the site rather than the law enforcement organizations.

Hamel · Post by **Hamel** » 2004-03-26 03:28am

Those clever Swiss and their army knives

This should have zero impact on the smart file sharers, who have likely moved on to better systems anyway

Sharp-kun · Post by **Sharp-kun** » 2004-03-26 07:38am

They can never kill DC++

Sarevok · Post by **Sarevok** » 2004-03-26 09:21am

There is always Kazaa.

Sharp-kun · Post by **Sharp-kun** » 2004-03-26 09:22am

evilcat4000 wrote:There is always Kazaa.

No, there is not always Kazza. It's a pile of shit.

Alferd Packer · Post by **Alferd Packer** » 2004-03-26 10:00am

The real hardcore swappers will always be found in the bowels of IRC, and will never, ever stop.

Of course, now that there's Bit Torrent, the dynamic of swapping large files, at least, has changed forever.

phongn · Post by **phongn** » 2004-03-26 11:02am

Alferd Packer wrote:The real hardcore swappers will always be found in the bowels of IRC, and will never, ever stop.

Of course, now that there's Bit Torrent, the dynamic of swapping large files, at least, has changed forever.

BitTorrent is not the best tool for transferring copyrighted material, mainly because there is no anonyminity.

TheDarkling · Post by **TheDarkling** » 2004-03-26 11:59am

Edonkey can survive without Sharereactor, there are other sites and even without them the good old serach function can be used.

Slartibartfast · Post by **Slartibartfast** » 2004-03-26 05:30pm

The thing about sharereactor was that it linked to verified sources and stuff, while you risk dloading fakes normally. But yeah, the search function pretty much works anyway.

The Albino Raven · Post by **The Albino Raven** » 2004-03-26 07:01pm

No, there is not always Kazza. It's a pile of shit.

Well, you get to choose between better quality material or less likelyhood of getting tapped. Your choice, cause i dont know of a site that can provide both without getting shut down by the govt.

Sharp-kun · Post by **Sharp-kun** » 2004-03-26 07:03pm

The Albino Raven wrote:
No, there is not always Kazza. It's a pile of shit.
Well, you get to choose between better quality material or less likelyhood of getting tapped. Your choice, cause i dont know of a site that can provide both without getting shut down by the govt.

DC++

It can't be shut down as there is no central server or anything. Its all hub based, run off people's home machines. You can find almost anything on it, and get speeds far faster than Kazza.

General Zod · Post by **General Zod** » 2004-03-26 07:08pm

Sharp-kun wrote:
The Albino Raven wrote:
No, there is not always Kazza. It's a pile of shit.
Well, you get to choose between better quality material or less likelyhood of getting tapped. Your choice, cause i dont know of a site that can provide both without getting shut down by the govt.
DC++

It can't be shut down as there is no central server or anything. Its all hub based, run off people's home machines. You can find almost anything on it, and get speeds far faster than Kazza.

couple of problems with DC++ are is it's complicated to use compared to the others, and there's a minimum amount of stuff that you have to be sharing in order to use it. upwards in the gigabyte range. all well and good, but it leaves those with low HD capacity kinda out in the cold.

Sharp-kun · Post by **Sharp-kun** » 2004-03-26 07:10pm

Darth_Zod wrote: couple of problems with DC++ are is it's complicated to use compared to the others, and there's a minimum amount of stuff that you have to be sharing in order to use it. upwards in the gigabyte range. all well and good, but it leaves those with low HD capacity kinda out in the cold.

Its not that complex, just takes getting used to. Minimum share is what makes it work, no system that intends to be good can suit everyone.

Alferd Packer · Post by **Alferd Packer** » 2004-03-26 09:45pm

phongn wrote:BitTorrent is not the best tool for transferring copyrighted material, mainly because there is no anonyminity.

Oh, well, I was talking mainly about mods, patches, videos of someone blowing up their car or something similarly stupid, and other large files like that. That's probably the most pragmatic use of BitTorrent I've seen: allowing servers to save bandwidth. As a recent example: the World of Warcraft Beta was distributed by a torrent.

But I'm curious; how are you not anonymous when using a torrent? Does the tracker record your IP address permanently, or only when you're downloading/seeding? Actually, perhaps a more pertinent question is this: how is your anonymity assured over the other networks? Is it just proxies and the like, or is the indexing almost totally decentralized?

Shadowhawk · Post by **Shadowhawk** » 2004-03-27 07:01pm

Alferd Packer wrote:But I'm curious; how are you not anonymous when using a torrent? Does the tracker record your IP address permanently, or only when you're downloading/seeding?

Get a decent BT client and click on its 'Advanced' option when you're downloading.

You can see the IP of everyone in the torrent.
Which means the MPAA/RIAA/BSA/whoever can sit in the torrent and record everyone who's pirating that file. And once you've got an IP address, it's pretty simple to get the rest of the necessary information, presuming your ISP hands over the info.

Sharp-kun · Post by **Sharp-kun** » 2004-03-27 07:05pm

Alferd Packer wrote:Actually, perhaps a more pertinent question is this: how is your anonymity assured over the other networks? Is it just proxies and the like, or is the indexing almost totally decentralized?

With DC++ there are various ways. One is the simple fact that its not as well known as other p2p networks, and is not something the companies are as likely to come after. Also most clients don't record or show IP's, only hub ops can view them. This can be got around by simply using an outside program, but its another layer of security.