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Darth Wong wrote:No, it's an incorrect interpretation. There is an integrated dance open to all, and a whites-only dance. I love the way people work their asses off to make excuses for these fuckers.
Then why is it such a big deal made about the dance being open to all last year if it was white and open-to-everyone dances?
Because they finally managed to break through segregationist tradition last year, and this year the fuckers are trying to turn back the clock! What part of this do you not understand?
I'm not making excuses for the racists. I just think you're unfairly nailing everyone because of your own biased out look.
Ah yes, I'm biased therefore my points are wrong. Good logic :roll:
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Because they finally managed to break through segregationist tradition last year, and this year the fuckers are trying to turn back the clock! What part of this do you not understand?
In case you missed it, white students were responisble for having an intergrated dance. Before that each had segregated dances. The article at least, shows it as being a white-only and a black-only dance.
Ah yes, I'm biased therefore my points are wrong. Good logic
I'm saying you're rushing to condemn everyone because of your own bias. You're trying to label everyone not violating the law to in order to shut down the white prom a racist. When your bias affects your reasoning then yes, it does matter.
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Because they finally managed to break through segregationist tradition last year, and this year the fuckers are trying to turn back the clock! What part of this do you not understand?
In case you missed it, white students were responisble for having an intergrated dance. Before that each had segregated dances.
Did you even read the original articles last year? The black students regarded it as a huge triumph last year when it happened. It made national news, just as this reversal did.
The article at least, shows it as being a white-only and a black-only dance.
No, the article this year says that the organizers of the regular dance say anyone is welcome to come, regardless of race. The organizers of the "other" dance say you have to be white.
I'm saying you're rushing to condemn everyone because of your own bias. You're trying to label everyone not violating the law to in order to shut down the white prom a racist. When your bias affects your reasoning then yes, it does matter.
And how has my bias affected my reasoning? You're the one who's had to grossly distort the facts (pretending that both blacks and whites want re-segregation) in order to cling to your position.
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Did you even read the original articles last year? The black students regarded it as a huge triumph last year when it happened. It made national news, just as this reversal did.
It was step forward. And some on both did regard it as a positve step same as some regard this as a step backward. So if they were so tolerant why was the black dance kept all black instead of allowing others in before last year? Why did that policy change just change last year?

I'll happily retract the statement if there was some proof that the "black" party was open to everyone. But from what I see in that article it was as discriminatory as the white party.
No, the article this year says that the organizers of the regular dance say anyone is welcome to come, regardless of race. The organizers of the "other" dance say you have to be white.
That's true. That is the case this year. So?
And how has my bias affected my reasoning? You're the one who's had to grossly distort the facts (pretending that both blacks and whites want re-segregation) in order to cling to your position.
Actually that doesn't affect my position that you're unfairly acussing everyone in the district because they won't violate the laws to end a private party. I agree that the organizers of the whites-only party are racists but I don't think everyone is a racist because they couldn't get the racist party shut down.
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Stormbringer wrote:I agree that the organizers of the whites-only party are racists but I don't think everyone is a racist because they couldn't get the racist party shut down.
Tell you what, I'll make you a bargain:

You find the public statements from school officials strongly condemning the whites-only dance (an act which would carry no legal repercussions, hence no excuses), and I will agree that they're not racist.
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Erin Posey, a white senior, said the entire junior class joined together in hosting last year's prom, but this year's junior class wasn't as unified.


"I think a lot of seniors were disappointed," she said. "Now we have to choose between two groups of friends."
Student government member in that one. I'll work to find the a school official's quote if I can.
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Stormbringer wrote:
Erin Posey, a white senior, said the entire junior class joined together in hosting last year's prom, but this year's junior class wasn't as unified.


"I think a lot of seniors were disappointed," she said. "Now we have to choose between two groups of friends."
Student government member in that one. I'll work to find the a school official's quote if I can.
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Unfortunately all that's available is the AP story at this point. There's nothing one way or that other. Not so much as a school officials declined comment in any variation of the AP story.
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"The conduct of Sherman's army and particularly of Kilpatrick's cavalry and the numerous parties swarming through the country in advance and on the flanks of the main columns during the march from Atlanta to the coast, is reprehensible in the extreme ... the Federals on every hand and at all points indulged in unwanton pillage, wasting and destroying what could not be used. Defenseless women and children and weak old men were not infrequently driven from their homes, their dwellings fired, and these noncombatants subjected to insult and privation. The inhabitants, white and black, were often robbed of their personal effects, were intimidated by threats — and occasionally were even hanged to the verge of strangulation to compel revelation of the places where money, plate and jewelry were buried, or plantation animals concealed, — horses, mules, cattle and hogs were either driven off, or were shot in the fields, or uselessly butchered in the pens." Today, it is not hard to find Georgians who have ugly family stories to tell from the days of Sherman's March, and still hold hard feelings.
Source: http://sherpaguides.com/georgia/civil_w ... erman.html

That's taking it too far and is fairly disgusting. I don't think it was necessary to do that. :cry: However, I don't think that was what Sherman intended, at least at first...
The March Begins

In preparing for the long march before him, Sherman left behind all disabled or weak men, and made up a fine army of 60,000 seasoned veterans, of whom 5,000 were cavalry. The army was to feed itself on the country. Each brigade had a party of foragers, called "bummers." These men were instructed to take all necessary provisions, horses and mules, but were ordered not to enter dwellings, nor insult the people, and were told to leave a part of their property to every family, so that none would be destitute. Where the army was not opposed, Sherman ordered that mills, cotton gins and houses should not be destroyed; but they were to be burned, if resistance were made. All these orders were very badly obeyed, no effort seemingly having been made to enforce the instructions.


However, he didn't make an effort to enforce them....soo.... :? Also, here, it says that he later set out only to cause sheer destruction in Georgia:
Sherman's Conduct in Georgia

No other campaign in the entire war has contributed more to keeping alive sectional feeling than Sherman's march through Georgia and South Carolina. The march began in November, after the crops had been gathered. The "bummers" found the barns bursting with grain, fodder, and peas, the outhouses full of cotton, the yards crowded with hogs, chickens, and turkeys. The soldiers in the Southern armies were starving, not because there was no food, but because the rail roads had been destroyed and it was impossible to send supplies to the front. Sherman was not content simply to use what food and supplies he needed, but boasted that he would "smash things to the sea" and make Georgia howl. His men entered dwellings, taking everything of value that could be moved, such as silver plate and jewelry; and killed and left dead in the pens thousands of hogs, sheep and poultry. Many dwellings were burned without any justification. Sherman in his own Memoirs testifies to the conduct of his men, estimating that he had destroyed $80,000,0000 worth of property of which he could make no use. This he describes as "simple waste and destruction." One of the most serious aspects of his work was the destruction of the railroads; the Central from Macon to Savannah, for instance, was almost totally ruined. According to Angle and Miers (1960), Sherman had no black soldiers in his army and did not think highly of them.
Source: http://sciway3.net/clark/civilwar/march.html

However, another site gives a fairly different take on it:

After stating "I can make Georgia howl!", on November 15, 1864 General Sherman set out for the sea. His 62,000 troops moved slowly covering a front sixty miles wide. His soldiers had orders to destroy anything and everything that might help the Rebels.
They tore down and burned bridges, railroads, machine shops, warehouses and barns. Food for men and animals was taken as needed, but most was simply destroyed. In areas where the army was not resisted, private residences, farm buildings and mills were sometimes spared.
Each of the regiments organized foraging parties, which kept near enough to be of support if attacked by an Confederates. Each party set out in the morning and returned at the end of the day. These parties were prohibited from entering homes or damaging private property. In the best disciplined divisions, these orders were enforced.
Discipline in the Union armies, however, was not even. Among 62,000 men, there were those willing to become robbers, and officers were often willing to ignore these actions or to share in the loot. The name given to these looters was "bummers". General Sherman probably could have controlled them, but he said his job was to get his army safely to the sea. He could not spare the manpower or energy to protect the people of Georgia.
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Some intersting excerpts from Sherman's personal memoirs:
The next day we passed through the handsome town of Covington, the soldiers closing up their ranks, the colorbearers unfurling their flags, and the bands striking up patriotic airs. The white people came out of their houses to behold the sight, spite of their deep hatred of the invaders, and the negroes were simply frantic with joy. Whenever they heard my name, they clustered about my horse, shouted and prayed in their peculiar style, which had a natural eloquence that would have moved a stone. I have witnessed hundreds, if not thousands, of such scenes, and can now see a poor girl, in the very ecstasy of the Methodist "shout," hugging the banner of one of the regiments, and jumping up to the "feet of Jesus."
It was at this very plantation that a soldier passed me with a ham on his musket, a jug of sorghum-molasses under his arm, and a big piece of honey in his hand, from which he was eating, and, catching my eye, he remarked sotto voce and carelessly to a comrade, "Forage liberally on the country," quoting from my general orders. On this occasion, as on many others that fell under my personal observation, I reproved the man, explained that foraging must be limited to the regular parties properly detailed, and that all provisions thus obtained must be delivered to the regular commissaries, to be fairly distributed to the men who kept their ranks.
Seems to me that he wanted to gather food to feed the entire army in an organized matter, not just let them randomly loot and steal food for themselves.
We found abundance of corn, molasses, meal, bacon, and sweet potatoes. We also took a good many cows and oxen, and a large number of mules. In all these the country was quite rich, never before having been visited by a hostile army; the recent crop had been excellent, had been just gathered and laid by for the winter. As a rule, we destroyed none, but kept our wagons full, and fed our teams bountifully.
They would usually procure a wagon or family carriage, load it with bacon, corn-meal, turkeys, chickens, ducks, and everything that could be used as food or forage, and would then regain the main road, usually in advance of the train.
The excerpts from the other sites suggest he was either lying or wasn't aware of what his own troops were doing...
Daily they returned mounted on all sorts of beasts, which were at once taken from them and appropriated to the general use; but the next day they would start out again on foot, only to repeat the experience of the day before. No doubt many acts of pillage, robbery, and violence were committed by these parties of foragers, usually called "bummers;" for I have since heard of jewelry taken from women, and the plunder of articles that never reached the commissary; but these acts were exceptional and incidental. I never heard of any cases of murder or rape; and no army could have carried along sufficient food and forage for a march of three hundred miles: so that foraging in some shape was necessary. The country was sparsely settled, with no magistrates or civil authorities who could respond to requisitions, as is done in all the wars of Europe: so that this system of foraging was simply indispensable to our success.
Perhaps some of this is truthful as well?

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Stormbringer wrote:Unfortunately all that's available is the AP story at this point. There's nothing one way or that other. Not so much as a school officials declined comment in any variation of the AP story.
Precisely. And you wonder why I came to the conclusion that the school condones this, and immediately decide it must be my bias. If I were the principal and reporters were sniffing around, I'd be grabbing the mike out of their hands to say how disgusted I am with this.
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D'oh! These should have been in quotes:
After stating "I can make Georgia howl!", on November 15, 1864 General Sherman set out for the sea. His 62,000 troops moved slowly covering a front sixty miles wide. His soldiers had orders to destroy anything and everything that might help the Rebels.
Each of the regiments organized foraging parties, which kept near enough to be of support if attacked by an Confederates. Each party set out in the morning and returned at the end of the day. These parties were prohibited from entering homes or damaging private property. In the best disciplined divisions, these orders were enforced.
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Darth Wong wrote:Precisely. And you wonder why I came to the conclusion that the school condones this, and immediately decide it must be my bias. If I were the principal and reporters were sniffing around, I'd be grabbing the mike out of their hands to say how disgusted I am with this.
Because there's no quote reported at all? For all we know that means it wasn't sounds bite friendly. Nothing is said about the school's reaction at all. If they refused comment I would think that'd be noted the same as any statement would. There's only one article from an AP stringer, from a few days ago which mentions nothing. There's nothing since to indicate one way or the other.

That they didn't react how you would doesn't mean they're racists.
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Stormbringer wrote:
Darth Wong wrote:Precisely. And you wonder why I came to the conclusion that the school condones this, and immediately decide it must be my bias. If I were the principal and reporters were sniffing around, I'd be grabbing the mike out of their hands to say how disgusted I am with this.
Because there's no quote reported at all? For all we know that means it wasn't sounds bite friendly. Nothing is said about the school's reaction at all. If they refused comment I would think that'd be noted the same as any statement would. There's only one article from an AP stringer, from a few days ago which mentions nothing. There's nothing since to indicate one way or the other.

That they didn't react how you would doesn't mean they're racists.
Their silence means they're probably racist, unless you can provide some kind of countervailing evidence, which you have not.
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Darth Wong wrote:Their silence means they're probably racist, unless you can provide some kind of countervailing evidence, which you have not.
Ah lovely. Since we don't know how they reacted they must be racist! :roll:
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Darth Wong wrote:Their silence means they're probably racist, unless you can provide some kind of countervailing evidence, which you have not.
Ah lovely. Since we don't know how they reacted they must be racist! :roll:
Ok, then what exactly is preventing them from announcing strong condemnation of the all-white gathering?
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Darth Wong wrote:Their silence means they're probably racist, unless you can provide some kind of countervailing evidence, which you have not.
Ah lovely. Since we don't know how they reacted they must be racist! :roll:
Keep your fucking rolleyes icons to yourself, smart-ass. The article states clearly that they stopped supporting proms because of the fear of interracial dating (made even more clear in LAST YEAR's article when they had the first integrated dance), so I have every reason to suspect racism. The burden of proof is on you, and all you can do is appeal to ignorance and play games.

Every time I say anything disparaging about anyone who happens to be in the south, you leap up to defend them, not even sure of what you're defending until you're in the thick of things.
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Keep your fucking rolleyes icons to yourself, smart-ass. The article states clearly that they stopped supporting proms because of the fear of interracial dating (made even more clear in LAST YEAR's article when they had the first integrated dance), so I have every reason to suspect racism. The burden of proof is on you, and all you can do is appeal to ignorance and play games.
They stopped hosting proms to avoid the controversy over interacial dating one way or the other. That doesn't prove racism. All it proves is they wanted to avoid the issue with all it's complications,

You're doing the same as you accuse me of. You're saying that because there is no statement on record they must be racists.
Every time I say anything disparaging about anyone who happens to be in the south, you leap up to defend them, not even sure of what you're defending until you're in the thick of things.
I'm sick of you treating all the American South as being racist until proven otherwise. Hell, I'm sick of you assuming that any white American is a racist.

You assume because there is no statement in that single article they must be racist. You're assuming they're guilty simply because the south has more racists with out bothering to offer any conclusive proof.
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Stormbringer wrote:They stopped hosting proms to avoid the controversy over interacial dating one way or the other. That doesn't prove racism. All it proves is they wanted to avoid the issue with all it's complications,
Actually, in last year's article it was plainly stated that they stopped because of the "fear of interracial dating". And even in America, it would be pretty fucking hard to sue a school because a white girl and a black boy started dating there.
You're doing the same as you accuse me of. You're saying that because there is no statement on record they must be racists.
There is a fucking statement on record! Do you know how to read? Unless last year's article was LYING about their motivations for stopping the sponsored dances, you lose.
I'm sick of you treating all the American South as being racist until proven otherwise. Hell, I'm sick of you assuming that any white American is a racist.
Perhaps if you could find the statement where I claim that all white Americans are racist, you would have a point. Otherwise, you're being a fucking asshole and misrepresenting me in order to save your sinking ship.
You assume because there is no statement in that single article they must be racist.
I suppose that's how you might decide to interpret my argument if you conveniently ignored pieces of it :roll:
You're assuming they're guilty simply because the south has more racists with out bothering to offer any conclusive proof.
Ah, so now I need "conclusive proof" otherwise your position wins by default, as if we're in a court of law? Funny how you deny that you're appealing to ignorance, even though that IS the precise definition of the appeal to ignorance.

Given the facts, the most reasonable conclusion is that they're probably racists. They're not in criminal court, and they don't get an imbalanced burden of proof weighted to their advantage.
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PS. Thanks for admitting that your real motivation here is some kind of vendetta against me for daring to think there's a lot of racists in the deep south. At least it's obvious why you're doing this now.
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Actually, in last year's article it was plainly stated that they stopped because of the "fear of interracial dating". And even in America, it would be pretty fucking hard to sue a school because a white girl and a black boy started dating there.
Could I please see the exact quote? I'm just curious, because this article says they stopped it because they didn't want to deal with the interacial dating issue.
There is a fucking statement on record! Do you know how to read? Unless last year's article was LYING about their motivations for stopping the sponsored dances, you lose.
How does that quote prove they're racists? All it proves is they didn't want to deal with it.
Perhaps if you could find the statement where I claim that all white Americans are racist, you would have a point. Otherwise, you're being a fucking asshole and misrepresenting me in order to save your sinking ship.
It's you attitude. You ignore other possibilties and you make sweeping statements about "rednecks", "fudnies" and "donkey fuckers" with no acknowledgement of the fact there are plenty of people there that aren't racists.
I suppose that's how you might decide to interpret my argument if you conveniently ignored pieces of it
What I see is you assuming that they are racist because they aren't on record screaming "They people are evil racist donkey fuckers!".
Ah, so now I need "conclusive proof" otherwise your position wins by default, as if we're in a court of law? Funny how you deny that you're appealing to ignorance, even though that IS the precise definition of the appeal to ignorance.

Given the facts, the most reasonable conclusion is that they're probably racists. They're not in criminal court, and they don't get an imbalanced burden of proof weighted to their advantage.
No, you're ignoring other possible reasons to assume it's because of racism. That's not proof, that's suspcion.
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How does that quote prove they're racists? All it proves is they didn't want to deal with it.
With their intentions made clear, how is it not obvious that they had racist motivations behind it?
It's you attitude. You ignore other possibilties and you make sweeping statements about "rednecks", "fudnies" and "donkey fuckers" with no acknowledgement of the fact there are plenty of people there that aren't racists.
He has reached a logical conclusion based on how these people are seen to act and the history of the environment they live in~ Please explain how his statements are sweeping
What I see is you assuming that they are racist because they aren't on record screaming "They people are evil racist donkey fuckers!".
These people could easily make a public condemnation of the racist activity, but no, they suddenly act timid and back down

What other conclusion do you expect us to reach?
No, you're ignoring other possible reasons to assume it's because of racism. That's not proof, that's suspcion.
I wouldn't call it suspicion, i'd call it solid evidence
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Actually, in last year's article it was plainly stated that they stopped because of the "fear of interracial dating". And even in America, it would be pretty fucking hard to sue a school because a white girl and a black boy started dating there.
Could I please see the exact quote? I'm just curious, because this article says they stopped it because they didn't want to deal with the interacial dating issue.
"Many rural Georgia high schools didn't integrate until the 1970s. After that, many school officials stopped sponsoring proms, in part because of the fear of interracial dating." from CNN. And for the umpteenth time, WHAT FUCKING INTERRACIAL DATING ISSUE? How is it the school's liability if interracial dating occurs? Even in America, there are limits to what a judge will allow in a lawsuit, and you are really pushing it in your knee-jerk desire to defend these assholes. The only "problems" arising from interracial dating are the offended feelings of bigots. Or, to quote one of the articles on the subject:

"School officials refused to comment on the prom. They say the proms are private dances held by the students with no involvement by the school - a stance that some believe allows educators to disavow responsibility for segregated events that would normally be illegal at a public school."
It's you attitude. You ignore other possibilties and you make sweeping statements about "rednecks", "fudnies" and "donkey fuckers" with no acknowledgement of the fact there are plenty of people there that aren't racists.
If you can find a statement where I said every single person there is a racist, fine. Otherwise, you're just being a jack-ass. The FACT is that the fundie and racist and redneck population in that part of the world IS a larger percentage of the population. Not 100%? Of course not. But larger? You know it's true, so don't waste my time whining that I noticed.
What I see is you assuming that they are racist because they aren't on record screaming "They people are evil racist donkey fuckers!".
Which is what they SHOULD be doing. Everyone there knows the real reason why the school officials won't say anything about the subject, but you keep trying to defend them. What reason do they have for REFUSING COMMENT, Stormbringer?
No, you're ignoring other possible reasons to assume it's because of racism. That's not proof, that's suspcion.
Bullshit. The only "other possible reason" is the fear of lawsuit, and you know as well as I do that you made that up out of thin air in order to generate flimsy excuses for them. How the fuck are you going to sue a school because interracial dating took place there?
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"School officials refused to comment on the prom. They say the proms are private dances held by the students with no involvement by the school - a stance that some believe allows educators to disavow responsibility for segregated events that would normally be illegal at a public school."
I happen to agree. If the administration won't say anything, (absence of anything is not the same thing as a real statement) I think it does show apathy or worse yet support on the part of school officials.
If you can find a statement where I said every single person there is a racist, fine. Otherwise, you're just being a jack-ass. The FACT is that the fundie and racist and redneck population in that part of the world IS a larger percentage of the population. Not 100%? Of course not. But larger? You know it's true, so don't waste my time whining that I noticed.
You don't come out and say it but your inuendo and attitude sure goes to show it. You act like everyone from there has to prove they're not racist. You use the same sort of implication and innuendo as a poliction. You won't say it but people get the message anyway.
Which is what they SHOULD be doing. Everyone there knows the real reason why the school officials won't say anything about the subject, but you keep trying to defend them. What reason do they have for REFUSING COMMENT, Stormbringer?
None. But finding no comments on in the article is not the same as them going on record saying "no comment".
Bullshit. The only "other possible reason" is the fear of lawsuit, and you know as well as I do that you made that up out of thin air in order to generate flimsy excuses for them. How the fuck are you going to sue a school because interracial dating took place there?
The fear of lawsuits and protests are real, Mike. It'd piss very vocal and litgatious on either side. And as for lawsuits, they don't have to have merit to go through. Fat people are suing restaruants these days, all it takes it a vindictive asshole and a lawyer. And there's protestors, they don't need a good reason, they just can.

I agree the school's unwillingness to say anything reflects poorly on them. Whether its indicates apathy, wariness of the situation, or agreement with the racists is subjective (at least with the evidence at hand).
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Stormbringer wrote:I happen to agree. If the administration won't say anything, (absence of anything is not the same thing as a real statement) I think it does show apathy or worse yet support on the part of school officials.
This was obviously the case from the beginning. You demanded every conceivable form of evidence because you were deliberately being difficult. As if the AP reporter wouldn't even bother soliciting a statement from the school's administration for this story!
You don't come out and say it but your inuendo and attitude sure goes to show it. You act like everyone from there has to prove they're not racist. You use the same sort of implication and innuendo as a poliction. You won't say it but people get the message anyway.
Either that, or you're reading things into what I'm saying because of your preconceptions. Durran seems to have fewer problems with my arguments on this subject than you do, and he FUCKING LIVES IN THAT STATE.
None. But finding no comments on in the article is not the same as them going on record saying "no comment".
Puh-lease. You honestly needed me to wave that in your face before admitting that perhaps the AP reporter would have tried and failed to get a statement from the school on this subject? What kind of reporter wouldn't even try to get a statement, especially while on-site interviewing students?
The fear of lawsuits and protests are real, Mike. It'd piss very vocal and litgatious on either side. And as for lawsuits, they don't have to have merit to go through. Fat people are suing restaruants these days, all it takes it a vindictive asshole and a lawyer. And there's protestors, they don't need a good reason, they just can.
Even within the pitiful standards of American tort law, you must still attempt to show some kind of negligence on the part of the defendant before you can commence trial. There is no case whatsoever for a lawsuit against a school in which interracial dating is permitted, and you just invented that possibility (which was never even remotely hinted to in any article about the subject or the region, EVER) in order to support your flimsy knee-jerk defense of these racist assholes.
I agree the school's unwillingness to say anything reflects poorly on them. Whether its indicates apathy, wariness of the situation, or agreement with the racists is subjective (at least with the evidence at hand).
You know perfectly well what it means. You just won't admit it.
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This was obviously the case from the beginning. You demanded every conceivable form of evidence because you were deliberately being difficult. As if the AP reporter wouldn't even bother soliciting a statement from the school's administration for this story!
When the AP asticle makes no reference at all to any statement by the school officials I'm inclined to believe he didn't get one for whatever reason. Certainly even a no comment would have been reference if he got one. The reportor whose story you cited did so that settles the matter.
Either that, or you're reading things into what I'm saying because of your preconceptions. Durran seems to have fewer problems with my arguments on this subject than you do, and he FUCKING LIVES IN THAT STATE.
It's not just this arguement. It's ever chance you got to pontificate about Southern America.
Puh-lease. You honestly needed me to wave that in your face before admitting that perhaps the AP reporter would have tried and failed to get a statement from the school on this subject? What kind of reporter wouldn't even try to get a statement, especially while on-site interviewing students?
I don't know. But that reporter didn't for whatever reason. No time or whatever. Nothing was said in his article as opposed to the one you posted.

Even within the pitiful standards of American tort law, you must still attempt to show some kind of negligence on the part of the defendant before you can commence trial. There is no case whatsoever for a lawsuit against a school in which interracial dating is permitted, and you just invented that possibility (which was never even remotely hinted to in any article about the subject or the region, EVER) in order to support your flimsy knee-jerk defense of these racist assholes.
I'm not defending the racists. I'm merely looking to see that a case is made before you decide that they're all Klansmen in hiding.
You know perfectly well what it means. You just won't admit it.
It means they won't commit to anything. Racism is distinct possibility but not the only one. What ever it is it amounts to saying we don't care or worse, I won't deny that.
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