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Crown wrote:Of course your opinion of me has a lot to do with what's going on here. You wouldn't have responded as such if it were; Edi, Durandal or Darth Wong (to name a few) who posted what I posted because you would believe that they wouldn't lie. With me however, you have demonstrably shown, that you believe that I would lie over such a ridiculous non-issue.
Look douche bag, whether you did it purposely or not, I don't give rat's ass. I looked around, found nothing on this, some sites saying that it's an urban myth, and thought you had probably heard it somewhere and repeated it. Thus far, it still appears to be bullshit. Bringing up other people as examples is a red herring. If your ego is bruised this easily, then that's your problem.
I've given you my source. I've said that I regretted that I couldn't find an archive of the show. What's left is my intergrity, my intelligence and my word.
You've given me something you've heard. The fact that it's not verifiable doesn't do much to help your case, your intelligence, or your word.
Now your displaying a reading comprehension problem. I never used the lobotomy as a way to 'smear' the guy. I said it in an effort to highlight his ... odd ... behaivour in a contextual light that could be understood.
Okay, I'll admit I don't know your motivations here. Maybe you weren't slamming the guy. If it's not true however, then it amounts to spreading BS.
Lobotomy patients tend not to adveritse about it, so that could cover why there isn't a mountain of press about it, Irwin just didn't want to talk about it.
Right. Except on that TV show. :roll: [/quote]
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What do you feel about the passing of Peter Brock?
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Sorry, my mistake, thought it would be in the News forum. Delete away.
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Darth Wong wrote:Frankly, the offer of a state funeral is the perfect example of what irks me about the worldwide orgy of grief over Irwin's passing. We know him for one reason: he jumps on crocodiles while saying "Crikey!". Be honest; how much else did the average person know about him a week ago? But that's enough for the whole world to act as though it's lost a precious treasure, even though scientists who cure deadly diseases pass away all the time and are lucky to get a one-line obit in the back page of Newsweek. He's an example of our celebrity obsession.
Perhaps the reason he's so greaved over is his unusual manner of death. I mean, who expects to get killed by a stingray? I'd imagine if he'd had a heart attack, the grief over his death would be somewhat less noticable. Perhaps this isn't so much an example of our celebrity obsession as it is an example of our intrest in unusual manners of death. The fact that a rather well-known celebrity died in such unusual circumstances is more impressive than a rather well-known celebrity dying.
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Maraxus wrote:Perhaps the reason he's so greaved over is his unusual manner of death. I mean, who expects to get killed by a stingray? I'd imagine if he'd had a heart attack, the grief over his death would be somewhat less noticable. Perhaps this isn't so much an example of our celebrity obsession as it is an example of our intrest in unusual manners of death. The fact that a rather well-known celebrity died in such unusual circumstances is more impressive than a rather well-known celebrity dying.

I'm pretty sure this has to do with our celebrity obsession. He might have been a bit unique in that he wasn't some stuck up asshole Tom Cruise type (he was actually doing work in wildlife conservation) but it was his celebrity that resulted in this media storm. Plus he was an Australian famous in America.

I agree that it's utterly absurd that useless people like Brittany Spears or Jessica Simpson gain fame and wealth... especially compared to REAL people who do real jobs, like scientists, physicians, teachers, etc. It shows how screwed up our priorities really are.

I'll admit Steve was one of maybe three living celebrities I really like. I respected his work (he discovered two previous unknown reptile species, influenced pro conservation laws, etc) and maybe I identified with his ADHD style, I dunno... But I'm convinced that this media reaction is because he was famous.
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Superman wrote:
Crown wrote:Of course your opinion of me has a lot to do with what's going on here. You wouldn't have responded as such if it were; Edi, Durandal or Darth Wong (to name a few) who posted what I posted because you would believe that they wouldn't lie. With me however, you have demonstrably shown, that you believe that I would lie over such a ridiculous non-issue.
Look douche bag, whether you did it purposely or not, I don't give rat's ass. I looked around, found nothing on this, some sites saying that it's an urban myth, and thought you had probably heard it somewhere and repeated it. Thus far, it still appears to be bullshit. Bringing up other people as examples is a red herring. If your ego is bruised this easily, then that's your problem.
My ego being bruised by someone who once asked if pink foam comes out of women's vagina's ... seriously :?:
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Crown wrote:I've given you my source. I've said that I regretted that I couldn't find an archive of the show. What's left is my intergrity, my intelligence and my word.
You've given me something you've heard. The fact that it's not verifiable doesn't do much to help your case, your intelligence, or your word.
Only if you choose to believe that I am so invested in this issue that I would go to the whole effort of stating that I heard him admit it, and then rather conviniently state a source that exists but isn't verifiable. Seriously, I have a day life you know.
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Crown wrote:Now your displaying a reading comprehension problem. I never used the lobotomy as a way to 'smear' the guy. I said it in an effort to highlight his ... odd ... behaivour in a contextual light that could be understood.
Okay, I'll admit I don't know your motivations here. Maybe you weren't slamming the guy. If it's not true however, then it amounts to spreading BS.
What motivation? Where could you have possibly gotten the impression in all of my (what 3 posts) that I was motivated to slam the guy to begin with.
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Crown wrote:Lobotomy patients tend not to adveritse about it, so that could cover why there isn't a mountain of press about it, Irwin just didn't want to talk about it.
Right. Except on that TV show. :roll:
Yes asshole. On a TV show, that I purposefully chose to cite as my source knowing full well that it can't be verified (nor found by a two bit half wit like you who isn't smart enough to do a Google search for 'The Panel' at Google.com.au) just so I could defend my own private Idaho. :roll:

Here it is; I state that I heard him state that yes he did have a lobotomy at a young age when he guessed appeared on the Australian TV show 'The Panel'. It was in response to a question asked by semi-regular host Kate Langbroek. I can't provide evidence for this as I didn't tape the show and neither Working Dog nor Channel Ten have archives of the show on the internet. I am not repeating a fucking internet rumour, I vividly remember the event and yes I am fucking certain they weren't joking.

Believe me or not. I don't care. But don't call me a liar asshole.
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Why exactly would someone's private medical history be available from a google search in any case? On an interview show like "The Panel" you can get such tidbits straight from the horse's mouth so to speak, Irwin himself in a position to either confirm or deny, in this case confirm as Crown insists he witnessed (and I would give him the benefit of the doubt). Given that it's someone's medical history patient confidentiality would be in full effect, and so I can't see how you would even be able to find such stuff out over the internet.

Throwing flames out over such an issue seems excessive, even for this board's standards. Irwin was a public figure, yet that doesn't mean every detail of his life would be known or easily available for dissemination - if anything, his status as a larger-than-life character would only serve to muddy the waters somewhat.
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