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The Yosemite Bear wrote:You realize Bundy got marriage proposals right?

Ted proposed to his girlfriend during his own trial where he served as his own lawyer.
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"I don't blame people if they haven't forgiven him, but I have forgiven him, as my husband and as a human being -- I think every human being, under the law and under God, deserves a second chance."
Not when they kill the parents and grand parents of two girls so they can rape them, and then kill them too. Mass Murdering rapists are exactly what we have life in prison for.
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The Yosemite Bear wrote:You realize Bundy got marriage proposals right?
You're thinking of Ramirez.

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Any idea on why people marry these criminals?

Is it possible that the woman has a serious self-esteem issue, and needs to be in a relationship where she's always recognized as being generous, compassionate, and selfless?
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CaptainZoidberg wrote:Any idea on why people marry these criminals?

Is it possible that the woman has a serious self-esteem issue, and needs to be in a relationship where she's always recognized as being generous, compassionate, and selfless?
I've been thinking about this, rolling it around in my head, and I have a hypothesis.

Did you notice her line about God? I'm thinking she's a Christian (actually, that part is pretty much guaranteed) who bought into all of that "forgiveness" nonsense (again, almost guaranteed given her rhetoric) and initially tried to write this asshole to convince him to find Jesus and be forgiven through Christ. Then, she discovered that he sounds like a normal person, even though she was expecting him to be some kind of drool-spitting raving caricature, of the sort they described for her in Sunday School. This convinced her that he is basically a "good man inside", and of course, he kept telling her how sorry he was about what he did (no shit, he's serving 25 years to life), and he's desperately needy because he's a single man in prison, so she felt validated and valued.
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This is another reason I'm a fan of indie movies and the challenge they bring to the general society. Example: The movie L.I.E.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0242587/
It has a plot that involves a young boy that become befriended by a pedophile, but the story evolves in a way that sees the pedophile NOT preying on him, and instead becoming a trusted friend that helps guide him. This movie disconcerted a lot of people who felt that this was inappropriately 'humanizing' a pedophile, but when it comes down to it, this is something that could easily happen. It's a lot more realistic to have these uncommon themes representing potential reality then the typical blockbuster in theatres.

Typical Hollywood flicks are such childishly simplistic themes portraying black and white views of people and the world. People are generally 'good' or 'bad', and they rarely show a shaded grey of a person when they are the bad one. This subtly reinforces the idea that murderers, rapists, etc. are blatantly obvious sociopaths and lack all capacity of love, mercy or empathy.

But this is obviously a fallacy. As Mike pointed out, even Hitler could be mined for 'good' qualities. So because of these unrealistic expectations, people like this woman gets fooled into thinking this person is not deserving of the judgement worthy of such crimes. They see what seems to be a discrepancy between a criminal and his personality, and think that this indicates a new evaluation and potential exoneration should be in the cards.

But they have to remember that this person still chose to deliberately harm and in some cases, kill another human being. This is not to be tolerated, and it certainly does not respect the loss of the victim's life if the person gets to walk just because they turn on the waterworks and drop down to their knees expressing their remorse. Tough fucking titty. Tell it to the corpse they left behind, and while you're at it, go cry to the family of the deceased. See if they have any sympathy for you.

In RARE cases of serious harm or even murder, there are extenuating circumstances that reveal a person's motive and/or intent was not truly chosen freely or with full comprehension. So there is always a potential for atonement in these cases anyway.
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Darth Wong wrote:
Galvatron wrote:This happened in Canada??
Nobody ever said Canada was a magical land where no murders ever take place. They take place, only at roughly 1/3 the rate that they do in the US.
Are you serious? A country with a population roughly 1/10 the size of the US has 1/3 the number of murders? That’s horrible! :shock:
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Dargos wrote:
Darth Wong wrote:
Galvatron wrote:This happened in Canada??
Nobody ever said Canada was a magical land where no murders ever take place. They take place, only at roughly 1/3 the rate that they do in the US.
Are you serious? A country with a population roughly 1/10 the size of the US has 1/3 the number of murders? That’s horrible! :shock:
Jesus Christ, are you trying to make a joke or are you actually so goddamned stupid that you don't understand that I was obviously talking about the murder rate, which is invariably expressed per capita?
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From what I see here, Canada is better only where violent crimes are considered; in property crimes it's roughly on a par with the US. So far as violent crimes are concerned, aggravated assault is around 1/4 that in the US, and robbery is about 1/2. See also here, and here.
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