Obama picks Biden for VP slot

Post by **Mr Bean** » 2008-08-23 11:55am

Biden will forever be on my good list for when he was running for President he broke of his Campaign in Iowa and went back to fight the FISA bill and demanded the other Senators(Obama/Hillary) stop campaigning and help him Filbuster the bill.

That they did not is forever a mark against them and forever a mark for him since he WON the FISA fight the Obama subsequently surrendered on.

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2008-08-23 12:08pm

Anguirus wrote:I'm not a Biden expert but he seems like a good choice. Almost Cheney-like, actually...he doesn't seem the type to have his own burning presidential ambition, but will concentrate on helping Obama. (I could be wrong, of course.)

He ran for President himself, several times, you retard.

He may not have a burning ambition to be president but he's not exactly unambitious either. Get some perspective, these people don't have to be saints to be worth voting for.

As for the pick, the more I think about this the more I think Red Imperator has said every thing, and done it better, than I would have. As some one who is still a small-c quasi-conservative I'm actually glad to see Biden picked. I think he's smart enough, experienced enough, and indepedent enough to keep Obama from making mistakes of inexperience or over idealism. Given that's been my one big concern (especially regarding foreign policy) and this alleviates it some.

Rogue 9 · Post by **Rogue 9** » 2008-08-23 01:27pm

And here we go. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fpjAs4vtc1w

RedImperator · Post by **RedImperator** » 2008-08-23 01:55pm

Rogue 9 wrote:And here we go. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fpjAs4vtc1w

I assume this means Mittens isn't actually on the short list. Because if Romney is the running mate, the quotes from the Republican primary are going to make this look like a kiss on the cheek, and even the McCain campaign wouldn't be dumb enough to open themselves up like....oh wait.

SirNitram · Post by **SirNitram** » 2008-08-23 02:40pm

Mittens?

It's like they want to lose. Pro-Choice, wierd religion, already pissed off the Religious Right, so fake his hair hasn't moved since the 80s, Multiple-Choice Mitt?

So in that sweep you've pissed off the conservative base. Oh, and you've just enflamed the 'So rich he's out of touch' meme so it will never actually stop.

But McCain is batshit crazy enough to, I must say.

Battlehymn Republic · Post by **Battlehymn Republic** » 2008-08-23 02:54pm

Romney would be even a worse choice than Huckabee. At least Huckabee locks up the evangelical vote and is sympathetic to the poor.

Patrick Degan · Post by **Patrick Degan** » 2008-08-23 03:12pm

Battlehymn Republic wrote:Romney would be even a worse choice than Huckabee. At least Huckabee locks up the evangelical vote and is sympathetic to the poor.

This:

is sympathetic to the poor.

is why Huckabee won't be picked as VP.

Adrian Laguna · Post by **Adrian Laguna** » 2008-08-23 04:23pm

On second thought Stormbringer, RedImperator, and Jaedite are correct, Biden is a decent pick.

Gerald Tarrant · Post by **Gerald Tarrant** » 2008-08-23 04:26pm

Hahahaha. Now I get it. The 3 AM phone call (actually a text, but you get the idea). Very funny jab at Hillary.

Guardsman Bass · Post by **Guardsman Bass** » 2008-08-23 04:40pm

Don't the Vice Presidential candidates have a debate in the general election? That has me hoping it will be Romney for McCain; a debate between Romney and Biden would probably be amusing to watch.

LMSx · Post by **LMSx** » 2008-08-23 05:23pm

O-Biden '08 ?

A good enough pick. I would have been concerned with Evan Bayh or Tim Kaine. In the primary it sounds like he almost had an obsession with mocking and blasting Rudy Guiliani, which makes him a star in my book.

Elfdart · Post by **Elfdart** » 2008-08-23 05:42pm

Romney would be even a worse choice than Huckabee. At least Huckabee locks up the evangelical vote and is sympathetic to the poor.

I'll say this much for Romney: the man dresses sharp. I always wondered why the media had such a man crush on a withered troll like McCain when Romney has that George Hamilton-In-The Godfather 3 look going.

Kodiak · Post by **Kodiak** » 2008-08-23 06:05pm

Elfdart wrote:
Romney would be even a worse choice than Huckabee. At least Huckabee locks up the evangelical vote and is sympathetic to the poor.
I'll say this much for Romney: the man dresses sharp. I always wondered why the media had such a man crush on a withered troll like McCain when Romney has that George Hamilton-In-The Godfather 3 look going.

The general consensus in the public was that Romney looked "Too Perfect" and it was off-putting

SirNitram · Post by **SirNitram** » 2008-08-23 06:08pm

Kodiak wrote:
Elfdart wrote:
Romney would be even a worse choice than Huckabee. At least Huckabee locks up the evangelical vote and is sympathetic to the poor.
I'll say this much for Romney: the man dresses sharp. I always wondered why the media had such a man crush on a withered troll like McCain when Romney has that George Hamilton-In-The Godfather 3 look going.
The general consensus in the public was that Romney looked "Too Perfect" and it was off-putting

The man's hair has been in that exact position for years, that's not 'off-putting'. That's fucking creepy. How much hairspray can one man use?

Anguirus · Post by **Anguirus** » 2008-08-23 06:21pm

He ran for President himself, several times, you retard.

That will teach me to post right after I wake up.

Knife · Post by **Knife** » 2008-08-23 06:49pm

I'm glad. I remember saying I wanted Biden as Veep in a thread months ago predicting it. Joe doesn't so much put his foot in his mouth as he says it how it is and a lot of people don't like uncomfortable truths.

Ariphaos · Post by **Ariphaos** » 2008-08-23 08:50pm

GrandMasterTerwynn wrote:However, Biden isn't likely to get anyone to vote for Obama who wasn't inclined to vote for him in the first place. That's okay, as John the Senile will be busy sacrificing any capability for original thought at the Altar of Saint Ronald.

You kidding? See the link in my post.

Starglider · Post by **Starglider** » 2008-08-23 09:09pm

I see that the die-hard conservatives are already calling Binden an 'ultra-left-wing die-hard liberal'. I don't know anything about the man, but judging by past track record that means he's just moderate enough to be electable as a British Conservative candidate.

Patrick Degan · Post by **Patrick Degan** » 2008-08-23 10:20pm

Starglider wrote:I see that the die-hard conservatives are already calling Binden an 'ultra-left-wing die-hard liberal'.

That's pretty much their catch-all description for anybody who isn't as fascist as they are.

Really, American conservatism's rhetoric is getting about as extreme as what you'd have heard in the days of Pinochet's Chile or Argentina under Salazar or the Perons.

Thanas · Post by **Thanas** » 2008-08-24 08:25am

Mr Bean wrote:Biden will forever be on my good list for when he was running for President he broke of his Campaign in Iowa and went back to fight the FISA bill and demanded the other Senators(Obama/Hillary) stop campaigning and help him Filbuster the bill.

That they did not is forever a mark against them and forever a mark for him since he WON the FISA fight the Obama subsequently surrendered on.

Quoted for truth.

I said way back that Biden would be a good pick...in fact, he was my preferred candidate over Obama precisely because of his foreign policy proposals, which are the best I have ever seen since 9/11.

SirNitram · Post by **SirNitram** » 2008-08-24 05:21pm

So Biden mocked McCain for being so out of touch his biggest problem was picking which of seven kitchen tables to sit at.

So of course.. Link

Relevent excerpt:

“I am grateful for the fact that I have a wonderful life,” McCain said. “I spent some years without a kitchen table, without a chair, and I know what it's like to be blessed by the opportunities of this great nation. Cindy's father, who barely finished high school, went off and distinguished himself in World War II in a B-17 and came back with practically nothing and realized the American dream, and I am proud and grateful for that, and I think he is a role model to many young Americans who serve in the military and come back and succeed.

P.O.W.! You Can't Criticize Me!

Darksider · Post by **Darksider** » 2008-08-24 05:25pm

You know what?

I hope that mccain plays the POW card so much that people get sick of it, and lose their worship of so-called "war hero's"

(Although I can't imagine why losing five expensive fighter jets qualifies mccain as a war hero in the first place)

White Haven · Post by **White Haven** » 2008-08-24 05:57pm

It'd be interesting to see Obama start running ads about actual war heroes, to demonstrate that 'being in a war, and being shot at' doesn't mean 'hero.'

Illuminatus Primus · Post by **Illuminatus Primus** » 2008-08-24 06:17pm

Patrick Degan wrote:Really, American conservatism's rhetoric is getting about as extreme as what you'd have heard in the days of Pinochet's Chile or Argentina under Salazar or the Perons.

Salazar ran Portugal's Estado Novo, and the Perons were a left-wing populist dictatorship.

Patrick Degan · Post by **Patrick Degan** » 2008-08-24 06:57pm

Illuminatus Primus wrote:
Patrick Degan wrote:Really, American conservatism's rhetoric is getting about as extreme as what you'd have heard in the days of Pinochet's Chile or Argentina under Salazar or the Perons.
Salazar ran Portugal's Estado Novo, and the Perons were a left-wing populist dictatorship.

My mistake on Salazar. Peron, on the other hand... The man may have started off left-wing but decidedly turned right-wing in his third term as president, and his widow Isabel was the one who touched off Argentina's Dirty War.