Voting Democrat? You vote.. Yea, Nov /5th/, that's the one.

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Re: Voting Democrat? You vote.. Yea, Nov /5th/, that's the one.

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pieman3141 wrote:Wasn't there a college thing in the States about students needing to vote in their home... whatever (riding? district?) or else their financial aid would be cut off? When money's on the line, guess whcih people will try to save first.
What are you talking about?
It's a tactic that's been used recently to keep college students from voting in the state where they're going to school. Telling them that if they register to vote in the state where they're going to school, instead of filing absentee in their home state, then they'll lose access to financial aid. Apparently it was done less to keep college students from swaying where a state goes in a Presidential election and more that nearby residents didn't want college students skewing their local elections.
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Ghetto Edit: In case I wasn't clear, it obviously isn't true that they would lose financial aid, but that is what they were being told in order to keep them off the local ballots.
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Civil War Man wrote:Ghetto Edit: In case I wasn't clear, it obviously isn't true that they would lose financial aid, but that is what they were being told in order to keep them off the local ballots.
Do you not have something like in the UK where if you're resident in two parts of the country (e.g. students) then you can vote in local elections in both locations (you can't if both the places you live elect to the same body, so no national elections).
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Teebs wrote:
Civil War Man wrote:Ghetto Edit: In case I wasn't clear, it obviously isn't true that they would lose financial aid, but that is what they were being told in order to keep them off the local ballots.
Do you not have something like in the UK where if you're resident in two parts of the country (e.g. students) then you can vote in local elections in both locations (you can't if both the places you live elect to the same body, so no national elections).

In the United States, that would actually be a federal felony even though the elections themselves aren't federal, so, rather not.
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It's interesting how the UK's voting laws are so much different from the US's. I understand that I could go vote in an election in the UK, even though I'm a Canadian citizen, not a citizen of the UK?
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Phantasee wrote:It's interesting how the UK's voting laws are so much different from the US's. I understand that I could go vote in an election in the UK, even though I'm a Canadian citizen, not a citizen of the UK?
I'm not sure how you came to that understanding, but I'm pretty sure you're wrong. Such a system would make little sense, and would be open to horrendous abuse.
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SCRawl wrote:
Phantasee wrote:It's interesting how the UK's voting laws are so much different from the US's. I understand that I could go vote in an election in the UK, even though I'm a Canadian citizen, not a citizen of the UK?
I'm not sure how you came to that understanding, but I'm pretty sure you're wrong. Such a system would make little sense, and would be open to horrendous abuse.
I'm going to guess that Canada is a Commonwealth Country? So, if you're a Canadian citizen visiting or living in the U.K. at the time of elections, you could vote there.
be a British citizen, or be a Commonwealth citizen or a citizen of the Irish Republic (and resident in the United Kingdom
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Kronos wrote:
SCRawl wrote:
Phantasee wrote:It's interesting how the UK's voting laws are so much different from the US's. I understand that I could go vote in an election in the UK, even though I'm a Canadian citizen, not a citizen of the UK?
I'm not sure how you came to that understanding, but I'm pretty sure you're wrong. Such a system would make little sense, and would be open to horrendous abuse.
I'm going to guess that Canada is a Commonwealth Country? So, if you're a Canadian citizen visiting or living in the U.K. at the time of elections, you could vote there.
be a British citizen, or be a Commonwealth citizen or a citizen of the Irish Republic (and resident in the United Kingdom
Yeah, not sure how I missed that little gem. I have three things to say about that: oops; (to Phantasee) sorry; and that's a fucking stupid way to go about it.
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Ok, so this means Darth Wong, the Canadians and even my country citizen can vote too? Hmm, perhaps this is a way to ensure the right decision get made for the benefit of the world as a whole.
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ray245 wrote:Ok, so this means Darth Wong, the Canadians and even my country citizen can vote too? Hmm, perhaps this is a way to ensure the right decision get made for the benefit of the world as a whole.
China's not part of the commonwealth and the Canadians would have to be resident here.
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Zuul wrote:
ray245 wrote:Ok, so this means Darth Wong, the Canadians and even my country citizen can vote too? Hmm, perhaps this is a way to ensure the right decision get made for the benefit of the world as a whole.
China's not part of the commonwealth and the Canadians would have to be resident here.
I'm not from china, I'm from singapore.
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I'm still having a hard time with this. Granted, I'll admit wholly that it is illegal. Point in fact, no denial, illegal. That said, what the hell does that say about you if you fall for this shit? I'm currently in college but have spent three president elections not college educated and I know my rights. WTF!
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I've come around to the idea that the best way to kill this kind of nonsense would be to go to an Oregon-style system nationwide: vote by mail, with physical polling stations to turn in your ballot or vote in person if you forget to put it in the mail in time or just like going to the polls. Combined with an "opt-out" registration instead of "opt-in", with the voter rolls maintained by state- or Federal-level agencies whose only mission is to maintain the voter rolls. It would save money, save time, end all the computer nonsense we've had for the last two cycles, wipe out most voter-suppression attempts and put an end to any hypothetical voter fraud (if any actually exists).
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Vote-by-mail is better anyway, yes. You deal with the horror of snail-mail, but it really is nice not to worry about lines and all that nonsense. I wouldn't mind requiring in-person dropoff (for, say, the whole week before the election) though. Some kind of two-factor authentication is nice, although you don't get that with in-person voting anyway.
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I just saw fliers today in yosemite telling people to vote next week rather then tomarrow...

The fliers were hardly up for very long before the powers that be removed them. (nice having hoards of pain in the ass federal cops who don't like vote tampering at all around)
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