Teens send nude pics to one other, face kiddie porn charges

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Kamakazie Sith wrote:This happened in Utah, but the charge was child rape. Basically, if you have sex with a person under 14 regardless if consent was there is child rape. Well, two children who were under the age of 14 had sex and some politician looking to improve his/her resume charged them both with child rape. IIRC correctly it didn't go all the way...
On top of that, the cell phone pictures bit has happened in Utah, a current case in Layton (davis county) is on going where teens sent nude pics to another teen. Last I heard, the prosecuter was going to go for child porn as well. Ridiculous.

The only thing I can think of is some sort of morality police, send nude pics, get ruined for life kids. Remember, your body is a source of disgust and self loathing.

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Superboy wrote:This case is completely absured, but as much disdain as I have for the US justice system, I still expect this to get thrown out before any of these kids have their lives ruined.

I'm curious, what would you think if some teens were charged with distributing child pornography after it was found that they had been taking graphic pictures of themselves and hosting them on a website for pedophiles?
I would say the charges are ridiculous because the kids were obviously not being victimized. That said, it is absurd that one can be charged for committing a crime, the action involved in which you cannot legally consent to. As a general rule that makes an amount of sense best quantified with negative numbers.
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Generally the case against child pornography is that the child is being coerced into doing something that he/ she cannot conceivably consent to, which is why we punish their coercers. Since, hypothetically, in your situation, no coercion is taking place, I would not pursue charges. But that gets a bit hazy, because it's hard to imagine that the child is not receiving encouragement from those on the site.
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Alyrium Denryle wrote:
Superboy wrote:This case is completely absured, but as much disdain as I have for the US justice system, I still expect this to get thrown out before any of these kids have their lives ruined.

I'm curious, what would you think if some teens were charged with distributing child pornography after it was found that they had been taking graphic pictures of themselves and hosting them on a website for pedophiles?
I would say the charges are ridiculous because the kids were obviously not being victimized. That said, it is absurd that one can be charged for committing a crime, the action involved in which you cannot legally consent to. As a general rule that makes an amount of sense best quantified with negative numbers.
That's the biggest problem I see. If you don't have a victim then you don't have a crime. Somehow you'd have to show that they were victimizing each other which sounds like it would be impossible to prove. I the OP case will fall of the face of the earth, no children will have felony records, and a politician will get a gold star.

To answer your question to me. I'm not really sure. You're getting into things that require more of an education in law than you get through the police academy.
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Knife wrote:
Kamakazie Sith wrote:This happened in Utah, but the charge was child rape. Basically, if you have sex with a person under 14 regardless if consent was there is child rape. Well, two children who were under the age of 14 had sex and some politician looking to improve his/her resume charged them both with child rape. IIRC correctly it didn't go all the way...
On top of that, the cell phone pictures bit has happened in Utah, a current case in Layton (davis county) is on going where teens sent nude pics to another teen. Last I heard, the prosecuter was going to go for child porn as well. Ridiculous.

The only thing I can think of is some sort of morality police, send nude pics, get ruined for life kids. Remember, your body is a source of disgust and self loathing.

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Well, to be fair I don't know of any children whose lives have been ruined by these stunts. Doesn't mean it hasn't happened, but I can't recall any specifically.
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