Israel seizes land for settlement expansion

N&P: Discuss governments, nations, politics and recent related news here.

Moderators: Alyrium Denryle, Edi, K. A. Pital

Samuel
Sith Marauder
Posts: 4750
Joined: 2008-10-23 11:36am

Re: Israel seizes land for settlement expansion

Post by Samuel »

Pelranius wrote:
Samuel wrote:
Pelranius wrote:All right, so if there is no two state solution, what happens when the Palestinians all demand to become Israeli citizens with voting rights and all?
Well, the two out of three is Jewish, one state and democratic. If they go with one state, they have to dump one of the other two.

The Palestineans probably won't demand to become citizens though. It just seems so out of character. After all, why would they want to join up?
If the Israelis keep fucking things up for themselves, there won't be any possible Palestinian state left and at the end, the Palestinians will eventually reason that they might as well just aim to have a say in who sits in the Knesset.
Well, they haven't done so given the last 50 years- what big change could occur to alter that?
User avatar
The Grim Squeaker
Emperor's Hand
Posts: 10319
Joined: 2005-06-01 01:44am
Location: A different time-space Continuum
Contact:

Re: Israel seizes land for settlement expansion

Post by The Grim Squeaker »

Samuel wrote:
Pelranius wrote: If the Israelis keep fucking things up for themselves, there won't be any possible Palestinian state left and at the end, the Palestinians will eventually reason that they might as well just aim to have a say in who sits in the Knesset.
Well, they haven't done so given the last 50 years- what big change could occur to alter that?
Demographic majority. Israel is a democracy, and all of its citizens (including the current Israeli-Arab citizens) have full voting rights, just like anyone else.
Photography
Genius is always allowed some leeway, once the hammer has been pried from its hands and the blood has been cleaned up.
To improve is to change; to be perfect is to change often.
User avatar
Edi
Dragonlord
Dragonlord
Posts: 12461
Joined: 2002-07-11 12:27am
Location: Helsinki, Finland

Re: Israel seizes land for settlement expansion

Post by Edi »

DEATH wrote:
Samuel wrote:
Pelranius wrote: If the Israelis keep fucking things up for themselves, there won't be any possible Palestinian state left and at the end, the Palestinians will eventually reason that they might as well just aim to have a say in who sits in the Knesset.
Well, they haven't done so given the last 50 years- what big change could occur to alter that?
Demographic majority. Israel is a democracy, and all of its citizens (including the current Israeli-Arab citizens) have full voting rights, just like anyone else.
The problem with that is that the Palestinians have no citizenship and no voting rights at all this it will take a good long while before the Arab-Israelis have enough of a demographic majority to oust the morons driving the current policies.
Warwolf Urban Combat Specialist

Why is it so goddamned hard to get little assholes like you to admit it when you fuck up? Is it pride? What gives you the right to have any pride?
–Darth Wong to vivftp

GOP message? Why don't they just come out of the closet: FASCISTS R' US –Patrick Degan

The GOP has a problem with anyone coming out of the closet. –18-till-I-die
User avatar
Ace Pace
Hardware Lover
Posts: 8456
Joined: 2002-07-07 03:04am
Location: Wasting time instead of money
Contact:

Re: Israel seizes land for settlement expansion

Post by Ace Pace »

Edi wrote: The problem with that is that the Palestinians have no citizenship and no voting rights at all this it will take a good long while before the Arab-Israelis have enough of a demographic majority to oust the morons driving the current policies.
Arab Israelies do themselves no favours in the political process. The two 'arab' parties are pathetic and shoot themselves in the foot every few weeks. Also, arab Israelies do not vote as a block (many vote for Labour and other left wing parties rather than self interest arab parties) and have voting rates far below the rest of the population.
Brotherhood of the Bear | HAB | Mess | SDnet archivist |
Post Reply