What's worse?

[Joe]

Calculus is the bane of my existence. I need it to graduate; I've attempted it twice and I have no idea how I'm going to pass it.

Accounting, fortunately doesn't involve higher math and all that theoretical crap; it's all about the numbers. Gotta be an arithmetic whiz.

[Nathan F]

Calculus is the bane of my existence. I need it to graduate; I've attempted it twice and I have no idea how I'm going to pass it.

Accounting, fortunately doesn't involve higher math and all that theoretical crap; it's all about the numbers. Gotta be an arithmetic whiz.

Kinda like engineering, if you can derive an equation and can get physics, then you are set.

[Queeb Salaron]

This is a broad generalization on both sides (which may or may not hold true) that really doesn't have much to do with the nature of protestors in general. Not ALL protestors block traffic or do other assholish things. And not all pro-war protestors are vindictive assholes. But they both have quite a bit to account for. No side is perfect, everyone's opinion is flawed in some way, and no one chooses to recognize that fact. So let them duke it out.

On a related note, I'd take Ted Nugent over Michael Moore in a steel cage match. Or a guitar duel.

[Darth Wong]

Calculus is the bane of my existence. I need it to graduate; I've attempted it twice and I have no idea how I'm going to pass it.

Accounting, fortunately doesn't involve higher math and all that theoretical crap; it's all about the numbers. Gotta be an arithmetic whiz.

Kinda like engineering, if you can derive an equation and can get physics, then you are set.

Hate to break it to you buddy, but if you can't do calculus, you are absolutely FUCKED in engineering once you get into second-year and beyond. Third-year is all calculus.

[Nathan F]

Calculus is the bane of my existence. I need it to graduate; I've attempted it twice and I have no idea how I'm going to pass it.

Accounting, fortunately doesn't involve higher math and all that theoretical crap; it's all about the numbers. Gotta be an arithmetic whiz.

Kinda like engineering, if you can derive an equation and can get physics, then you are set.

Hate to break it to you buddy, but if you can't do calculus, you are absolutely FUCKED in engineering once you get into second-year and beyond. Third-year is all calculus.

Ah, I know about the calculus, what I am referring to is the theoretical physics stuff, as in, fourth year nuke e.

[Nathan F]

*meant to hit preview, but hit submit, this is second half of the last post*

Seems as though everything in calculus, well, from what I can tell from looking in Calc II and III books anyways, and Calc I and Pre-Calc classes, most things involve graphing or visual things, once I see something down on paper, it seems, I dunno, not simple or easy, but understandable.

[Nathan F]

Anyways, back to the topic, I think we have digressed, alot, lol.

*Feel free to combine my last two + this thread into one, mods*

*damn the lack of an edit button...*

[Ted]

Kinda like engineering, if you can derive an equation and can get physics, then you are set.

Hate to break it to you buddy, but if you can't do calculus, you are absolutely FUCKED in engineering once you get into second-year and beyond. Third-year is all calculus.

Yeah, my grandfather was an engineer, used calculus all his life until Alzheimers set in. Had it all completely memorized, never even used a calculator. Though that could be why Pickering is in such bad shape...

[MKSheppard]

I like vindicative assholes in the pro-war crowd. I'm one of them

If I could, I'd run over those damn anti-war shitheads who are protesting
by laying down in the streets and blocking traffic

[Nathan F]

I like vindicative assholes in the pro-war crowd. I'm one of them

If I could, I'd run over those damn anti-war shitheads who are protesting
by laying down in the streets and blocking traffic

[Wicked Pilot]

I think they can both go outside and play hide and go fuck themselves. Of course because I live in a very conservative (fundie) town, there are more vindictive assholes around. I get sick of hearing all the right wingers spouting mindless bullshit like "God is on our side", or "Thank God for Bush and FOX News", and "All those long haired hippies from California should be shot", etc.
I myself am pro-war, and have been since way before 9/11. I won't give you any bullshit reasons why I think invasion is necessary, and I don't go around calling people traitors for disagreeing with U.S. policy. Is that too much to ask from everyone else?





P.S. Leave the engineers alone. Their lack of sex due to staying up all night doing math gives the rest of us guys a bigger women pool to swim in.

[Darth Wong]

Seems as though everything in calculus, well, from what I can tell from looking in Calc II and III books anyways, and Calc I and Pre-Calc classes, most things involve graphing or visual things, once I see something down on paper, it seems, I dunno, not simple or easy, but understandable.

Heh heh ... once you get into differential equations, you won't be able to graph anything.

[Darth Wong]

I think they can both go outside and play hide and go fuck themselves. Of course because I live in a very conservative (fundie) town, there are more vindictive assholes around. I get sick of hearing all the right wingers spouting mindless bullshit like "God is on our side", or "Thank God for Bush and FOX News", and "All those long haired hippies from California should be shot", etc.

I myself am pro-war, and have been since way before 9/11. I won't give you any bullshit reasons why I think invasion is necessary, and I don't go around calling people traitors for disagreeing with U.S. policy. Is that too much to ask from everyone else?

Well put.

P.S. Leave the engineers alone. Their lack of sex due to staying up all night doing math gives the rest of us guys a bigger women pool to swim in.

You like bigger women?

[Wicked Pilot]

You like bigger women?

Um, I was refering to having a target richer environment.

[EmperorChrostas the Cruel]

And now back to the subject.

Anti War protesters block traffic, and break things.(Costing OTHER people money and valuable time.)

Pro War protesters peacefuly take their buisness elsewhere.(Still spending it, but at a place with a stated policy 'he is in agreement with.)

Only a socialist would claim that all buisnesses have an equal claim on the comsumer's hard earned dollar, and that making a choice about WHERE you spend it, based on the ideoligy of the owner, is wrong/evil.

Equating not spending money where you don't like the attitude of the proprietor, and tieing up traffic is absurd.

[EmperorChrostas the Cruel]

And as an afterthought, doesn't the left/antiwarcrowd use boycotts TOO?

Making "civil disobedience" a leftist/antiwar specific tactic?

[Nathan F]

Seems as though everything in calculus, well, from what I can tell from looking in Calc II and III books anyways, and Calc I and Pre-Calc classes, most things involve graphing or visual things, once I see something down on paper, it seems, I dunno, not simple or easy, but understandable.

Heh heh ... once you get into differential equations, you won't be able to graph anything.

Dangit, ah, well, I can learn.

[Spyder]

The vindictive ones are in a position where they can do more harm to the anti-war crowd (nations and individuals) then the anti-war crowd can do to them as their actions are state-backed and institutionalized, commanding greater resources. You'll notice a pattern forming between these two crowds. It would be folly of me to say that the anti-war crowd are the bastion of all that is right in the world. Quite the contrary infact; a good number of them are more then likely protesting for the fun of it.

However, to sum up I'd say the pro-war vindictiveness is potentially more dangerous, and thus worse.

[Cpt_Frank]

Well, the anti-war crowd (I'm thinking France and Germany here) have boycotted American/British goods.

True, although I was under the impression that it was retaliatory. In any case, I was thinking more of the anti-war and pro-war extremists in America, not worldwide.

It's interesting, though, to note that we never hear about any countervailing protests or actions by the pro-war people in Germany or France. Are there none? Is there more uniformity of opinion over there?

Pretty much everyone over here dislikes the current US-administration and their genral course, and that's the reason there are no pro-war rallies here: there are some people who (like me) think that at last this war may have some postive result, but they're still 'anti-bush' and don't want to do anything to support his administration.
However the majority (70% IIRC) is opposed to the war, especially old and younger people.

[Sam Or I]

Its easy, which ever way you lean you think the oppisite does more damage (Which most of the post indicate).

I have not really been affected by either one, but then again I don't live in France or San Fran

[The Yosemite Bear]

No I just live in the most conservative county in Califorina, in an area that is completely dependant on Tourism, and in a 6 mile protected perserve for children of hippies, and other asssociated wierdos.

Needless to say it's making just shopping for groceries a lot harder. And no one has money because were on the blacklist....

Which is strange as there are very few clear cut idologs left now. Yup both liberal and conservatives have alienated us all.

[Queeb Salaron]

And as an afterthought, doesn't the left/antiwarcrowd use boycotts TOO?

Making "civil disobedience" a leftist/antiwar specific tactic?

Well... I'm not so sure that it's ONLY leftist/antiwar people who boycott. I mean, it would seem that way in contemporary society, but it's feasible that the right would start boycotting certain goods based on the ideology of the manufacturer. Or, on a different scale, it's VERY feasible that someone on the right would boycott, say, a particular director's films for the sole reason that he made some dumbass comments at an awards ceremony. ::Shrugs:: So I don't think it's specifically contained to the left.

[EmperorChrostas the Cruel]

Queeb.
You mised my point 180 degrees off. The word "too", means also.
The left and the right BOTH use boycotts, usualy canceling each other.
The civil disobedience is used by almost exclusively by the left, with the notable exception of the pro-life fundy morons. Even then, they only target the clinic, not the whole neighborhood. They block clinic access, not general trffic in the area. The antis block the whole fucking area, and provide cover, (albeit unwittingly) for the anarchist/vandal/thugs/americahaters.

The right wouldn't tollerate Nazis endorsing endorsing their point of view, (even on common interest things, like the death penalty)yet the left will not disavow the anarchists/communists.

[Marc Xavier]

Um, I was refering to having a target richer environment.

LMAO.

[EmperorChrostas the Cruel]

Because of the religious influence in the right, groups viewed as lacking in moral charachter, are not allowed to participate in the process, even if the 2 groups share the same view on the issue in question.
Thus, the Nazi party, John Birch society, ect..., are not welcome at an NRA, or Operation Rescue(A-HOLES!) ralley.
They could use the support, but at what cost to their (self professed) moral standing/authority.
They don't want the "help" of the "moral lepers", in their "moral crusade."
The antis don't care where their support comes from, so they end up being funded by communists. (Not In Our Name, ANSWER)Pickit signs cost money, in the form of paper, wood, paint, and unrepentant Stalinists pick up the tab.