Missiles loaded with Sarin & Mustard gas found. -NPR/Reu

Knife · Post by **Knife** » 2003-04-07 03:35pm

Got it....

Post by **Sea Skimmer** » 2003-04-07 03:57pm

Based off what CNN is saying, they first tested with hand held equipment and got inconclusive results. A Fox was brought in and got positive for nerve and blister agents. However a team is now being brought in from high up in V corps

Post by **Vympel** » 2003-04-08 12:12am

I heard today that the suspsected sarin may be just pesticides.

Like ... eh?

http://www.abc.net.au/news/justin/nat/n ... 003-13.htm

Post by **Edi** » 2003-04-08 02:31am

Apparently two incidents here.

The one Hamel's article is talking about is a facility that contained a barracks and a farm that was a suspected WMD site, and there was possible ground contamination from chem weapons (suspected) or pesticides similar to them (later confirmed). No missiles.

The missile stuff is another incident elsewhere.

Edi

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2003-04-08 03:02am

Why isn't anyone else reporting this missile story? It sounds an awful lot more convincing than the "drums" story if true. But CNN and FOX aren't on it, and you'd think they would be.

Could it be that the "missile story" is actually a telephone-game distortion of the "drum" story?

Post by **Vympel** » 2003-04-08 03:35am

Darth Wong wrote:Why isn't anyone else reporting this missile story? It sounds an awful lot more convincing than the "drums" story if true. But CNN and FOX aren't on it, and you'd think they would be.

Could it be that the "missile story" is actually a telephone-game distortion of the "drum" story?

I should think so. This should be trumpeted from the rooftops if it were a different story.

Axis Kast · Post by **Axis Kast** » 2003-04-08 01:53pm

The missile finds are being trumpeted from the rooftops.

It's confirmation that Iraq was deploying at least some chemical weapons in a military manner and that those arms escaped detection by the United Nations inspectorate.

Post by **Vympel** » 2003-04-08 11:53pm

Axis Kast wrote:The missile finds are being trumpeted from the rooftops.

It's confirmation that Iraq was deploying at least some chemical weapons in a military manner and that those arms escaped detection by the United Nations inspectorate.

No, it hasn't been trumpeted from the rooftops whatsoever. The other story, also posted on this board, has been- we haven't heard a peep about this since- Rumsfeld hasn't even mentioned it, where he mentioned the other one. How desperate can you get ... just be patient.

Post by **fgalkin** » 2003-04-09 12:04am

theski wrote:Well if this is true, how long untill the Left,the liberals, the French, claim that we planted them and that Saddam is more compassionate for not using the weapons???

The Russian media is claiming that the "weapons" are pesticides.

Have a very nice day.
-fgalkin

Axis Kast · Post by **Axis Kast** » 2003-04-09 07:36am

The Sarin rocket finds were plastered all over FOX and MSNBC as of Sunday.

Post by **Vympel** » 2003-04-09 09:18am

Axis Kast wrote:The Sarin rocket finds were plastered all over FOX and MSNBC as of Sunday.

"Almost all first reports we get turn out to be wrong," he said. "We don't do first reports and we don't speculate."

- Donald Rumsfeld.

Wait for him to say something, please.

The_Nice_Guy · Post by **The_Nice_Guy** » 2003-04-09 09:31am

Yeah, let's wait and see first. I have no idea what chemical tests can be carried out on site, though it'll be interesting to find out.

The Nice Guy

jegs2 · Post by **jegs2** » 2003-04-09 09:53am

fgalkin wrote:
theski wrote:Well if this is true, how long untill the Left,the liberals, the French, claim that we planted them and that Saddam is more compassionate for not using the weapons???
The Russian media is claiming that the "weapons" are pesticides.

Have a very nice day.
-fgalkin

Missiles armed with pesticides -- interesting...

Post by **Sea Skimmer** » 2003-04-09 10:15am

Darth Wong wrote:Why isn't anyone else reporting this missile story? It sounds an awful lot more convincing than the "drums" story if true. But CNN and FOX aren't on it, and you'd think they would be.

Could it be that the "missile story" is actually a telephone-game distortion of the "drum" story?

Both CNN and Fox have been reporting it for some time now

Post by **Sea Skimmer** » 2003-04-09 10:17am

fgalkin wrote: The Russian media is claiming that the "weapons" are pesticides.

Have a very nice day.
-fgalkin

They may very well be, military nerve agents have the same effects as some pesticides, but are just much stronger and more effective. Hell, Raid is a nerve agent which is why your suppost to stay out of rooms you spray.

After all, it as a company researching pesticides that discovered nerve gas in Germany accidently.

Ted · Post by **Ted** » 2003-04-09 10:21am

Knife wrote:What they won't mention, is that another twelve years or so would be required, durring which, the French will expand their trade with Iraq.

Yeah, their trade might start to equal the Americans trade with Iraq.

Knife · Post by **Knife** » 2003-04-09 12:20pm

Ted wrote:
Knife wrote:What they won't mention, is that another twelve years or so would be required, durring which, the French will expand their trade with Iraq.
Yeah, their trade might start to equal the Americans trade with Iraq.

Yeah, what ever...

EmperorChrostas the Cruel · Post by **EmperorChrostas the Cruel** » 2003-04-09 09:52pm

Damn Ted, you mouth is a lethal weapon, too bad it's aimed at your foot.

USA is a distant 4th place, at best, in trading with Iraq.

France #1

Germany #2

Russia #3

I believe, but do not know for sure, that Turkey, Jordan, and Syrria, have more trade with Iraq than the USA does.
Can you EVER open your mouth, without a thoughtles, incorrect, or mean spirited thing popping out?

Illuminatus Primus · Post by **Illuminatus Primus** » 2003-04-09 09:57pm

Ted wrote:
Knife wrote:What they won't mention, is that another twelve years or so would be required, durring which, the French will expand their trade with Iraq.
Yeah, their trade might start to equal the Americans trade with Iraq.

Wow. Shouldn't your title be "Ignorant and Obnoxious"?

Oddity · Post by **Oddity** » 2003-04-10 01:58pm

Emperor Chrostas the Crue wrote:Damn Ted, you mouth is a lethal weapon, too bad it's aimed at your foot.

USA is a distant 4th place, at best, in trading with Iraq.

France #1

Germany #2

Russia #3

I believe, but do not know for sure, that Turkey, Jordan, and Syrria, have more trade with Iraq than the USA does.
Can you EVER open your mouth, without a thoughtles, incorrect, or mean spirited thing popping out?

Bump.

CIA World Fact Book wrote:Exports - commodities: crude oil.
Exports - partners: US 46.2%, Italy 12.2%, France 9.6%, Spain 8.6%
Imports - commodities: food, medicine, manufactures.
Imports - partners: France 22.5%, Australia 22%, China 5.8%, Russia 5.8%

Ivan's Rule #1: DFBR! (Do the Fucking Background Research!)

EmperorChrostas the Cruel · Post by **EmperorChrostas the Cruel** » 2003-04-10 03:19pm

I stand , (provisionaly) corrected.
I did do some research, but as unable to find any info.
Can you give a better source, that I can look up?
I am very curious.

EmperorChrostas the Cruel · Post by **EmperorChrostas the Cruel** » 2003-04-10 03:48pm

Still, the conclusion that the USA buys more oil than anyine else should not be surprising. We buy most of the oil in the world, reguardless of source.
(from Iraq, this should be in the form of the iol for food program.)
The true measure here, should not be what percentage of Iraq's cash income is from the USA, but what percentage of the USA's income is derived from exports to Iraq.

Iraq' #1 source of foreign money may be the USA, but USA's
income from foreign trade from Iraq is pitiful.

I probably mistated my position.

It matters greatly to France, Germany, and Russia, if their income with Iraq is lost.

It matters not a whit if the USA loses all of the money coming in from Iraq.
USA might be Iraq's biggest source of foriegn trade, but Iraq is NOT the USA' biggest source of foregn trade.

Thus the term, "biggest trading partner, " has two meanings, depending on which side you are looking from.
That was my point, and I wish to state it clearly.
Bear in mind, this is only the LEGAL trade.
The black market is where the real money is being made.

Oddity · Post by **Oddity** » 2003-04-10 04:39pm

Emperor Chrostas the Crue wrote:I stand , (provisionaly) corrected.
I did do some research, but as unable to find any info.
Can you give a better source, that I can look up?
I am very curious.

Go to The CIA World Fact Book and select Iraq.

Oddity · Post by **Oddity** » 2003-04-10 04:51pm

Emperor Chrostas the Crue wrote:Still, the conclusion that the USA buys more oil than anyine else should not be surprising. We buy most of the oil in the world, reguardless of source.
(from Iraq, this should be in the form of the iol for food program.)
The true measure here, should not be what percentage of Iraq's cash income is from the USA, but what percentage of the USA's income is derived from exports to Iraq.

Iraq' #1 source of foreign money may be the USA, but USA's
income from foreign trade from Iraq is pitiful.

I probably mistated my position.

It matters greatly to France, Germany, and Russia, if their income with Iraq is lost.

Okay, I see your point now. However, in the page about France (in the CIA fact book) Iraq isn't even mentioned neither as export nor import partner. According to the page about Iraq they imported for $11 billion in 2002, which means that France at most earned two or three billion from trade with Iraq. This may seem much to me and you, but for a country that imported for over three hundred billion in 2002 it's nearly nothing.

EmperorChrostas the Cruel · Post by **EmperorChrostas the Cruel** » 2003-04-10 05:12pm

I have been wrong before.
Hell, I have agreed with Hameru, Edi, and now it is time to give Ted his due. (by the way, the zamboni driven by Satan has just resufaced the ice, anyone care to join me in some skating?)