Frank Hipper wrote:As far as I know, none of my ancestors owned any slaves in the first place. 25% of them came from Germany in the 1870s and 80s, 12.5% from Ireland, another 12.5% from Scotland, again in the 1880s
Wow thats my same ethnic breakdown, although my percentage distribution among those 3 would be different
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I'm fairly certain that I have at least some American slaveholder blood. How much, I'm not sure, however.
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Something just occured to me, my ancestors have been used as slave labour (British convicts). Am I entitled to money from the Queen?
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Frank Hipper wrote:You prove to me that someone in my family ever contributed to slavery in this country, I'll give you.....a penny. Maybe.
Same with me. My paternal family up until my grandfather were Pennsylvania coal miners. My mother's side were Pennsylvania farmers. My mother and father were each the first generation to graduate high school from my families, and only my father and his brother went to college. None of my ancestors had the wealth to afford any slaves, even if they'd been legal at the time.
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As far as I know, none of my ancestors owned any slaves in the first place. 25% of them came from Germany in the 1870s and 80s, 12.5% from Ireland, another 12.5% from Scotland, again in the 1880s, and the other half were too fucking poor(90% sure on this) to own much of anything!
Wow thats my same ethnic breakdown, although my percentage distribution among those 3 would be different
Same for me, although with the addition of English and Russian (we think...Ellis's records are unclear).
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Gandalf wrote:Something just occured to me, my ancestors have been used as slave labour (British convicts). Am I entitled to money from the Queen?
I don't think that prison labor counts as slavery. They were paying their debt to society.
It's not like they were sent home afterwards. Also, seven years and pretty much exile to Australia seems rather harsh for a little breaking and entering.
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All I know is that the grandfather on my mother's side came to America decades after slavery was abolished, my grandfather on my father's side was from Wisconsin and probably didn't have many slave-owning ancestors, and I believe my grandmother on my father's side came from Germany. That's at least half of my ancestory that didn't own slaves. However, that matters not to the reperations crowd. A white person is a white person, whether they've been in America for centuries, or just immigrated last year.
Fuck them up the ass. My Dad's grandparents on his mom's side came as teenagers from Poland. They worked their asses off to bring the rest of the family over, right in time to escape the Holocaust (Though another part of the family wasn't so lucky ). On his dad's side, they came over from Turkey and also worked their asses off. My grandpa got his degree in Accounting and worked his ass off for the IRS, going to night school to get his degree in Law.
And for those asking about my mother, she's from the Dominican Republic. And she's black.
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Gandalf wrote:Something just occured to me, my ancestors have been used as slave labour (British convicts). Am I entitled to money from the Queen?
I don't think that prison labor counts as slavery. They were paying their debt to society.
It's not like they were sent home afterwards. Also, seven years and pretty much exile to Australia seems rather harsh for a little breaking and entering.
We don't do this reparations shit. For asking, we sentence you to live in Austrailia.
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You had slavery for a longer duration of time than the U.S. and even bear historical burden of starting the Atlantic slave trade. You seem like perfectly good targets for "raise the flag of self-pity" groups. Has any of the standard issue reparations bull shit been attempted in your countries?
Shadow WarChief wrote:I have a question for any Europeans:
You had slavery for a longer duration of time than the U.S. and even bear historical burden of starting the Atlantic slave trade. You seem like perfectly good targets for "raise the flag of self-pity" groups. Has any of the standard issue reparations bull shit been attempted in your countries?
No, but outright slavery is very ancient history in most of Europe and slavery, when it did exist, wasn't confined to an easily identified ethnic group. Most europeean slavery of a more recent vintage was centered mainly in the colonies and those slaves remained in the colonies when they became independent.
Also the Arab slavetrade passes without comment despite it being almost as extensive as the Atlantic slavetrade and even longer in duration. There also is little talk of the African slavetrade, the many Africans who grew wealthy by raiding and selling their neighbours into slavery.
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Gandalf wrote:Something just occured to me, my ancestors have been used as slave labour (British convicts). Am I entitled to money from the Queen?
No, your ancestors were housed and fed at His Majestys pleasure , your lot have had their shot {and are still a bunch of no good crooks }
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