Tracking Porn

[Trytostaydead]

I saw a BBC school documentary one morning when I was bored (really) and this programme was looking at Utah and places like Death Valley in California and I have to wonder, did they just colonise and then continue to live there just to prove they could or is there something in the (limited) water supply?

Because they got chased out of everywhere else.

[Darth Wong]

I meant I've lived the majority of my life in Utah. I've also lived in Texas.

Ah, I see. Big difference

Though I have noticed that most people who move from another state to Utah can't stand it. I feel they are just home sick.

Since you have never lived anywhere but fundie-infested desert states, what frame of reference do you have for concluding that there are no good reasons for them to prefer their places of origin?

[Utah Jak]

What's with all the South bashing on this site? Not all of us are crazy fundies!

[Darth Wong]

What's with all the South bashing on this site? Not all of us are crazy fundies!

Keep that "averages don't matter, generalized statements are always bad" attitude in mind the next time you say something about the Middle East.

[Kamakazie Sith]

I meant I've lived the majority of my life in Utah. I've also lived in Texas.

Ah, I see. Big difference

Though I have noticed that most people who move from another state to Utah can't stand it. I feel they are just home sick.

Since you have never lived anywhere but fundie-infested desert states, what frame of reference do you have for concluding that there are no good reasons for them to prefer their places of origin?

All I've heard from these people is "The beer isn't as strong.." so you'll forgive me if I don't place much faith in their reasons.

All this is just a matter of preference though. It's like arguing about which pizza is better. Basically this is a pointless discussion, and I'm sorry I got involved. If you don't like Utah fine, but I at least hope you'll visit sometime to see for yourself.

[Darth Wong]

All this is just a matter of preference though. It's like arguing about which pizza is better. Basically this is a pointless discussion, and I'm sorry I got involved. If you don't like Utah fine, but I at least hope you'll visit sometime to see for yourself.

OK, what's the draw then? And don't tell me it's the view: if I want a nice view I'll go for an ocean, not a canyon.

[jcow79]

All this is just a matter of preference though. It's like arguing about which pizza is better. Basically this is a pointless discussion, and I'm sorry I got involved. If you don't like Utah fine, but I at least hope you'll visit sometime to see for yourself.

OK, what's the draw then? And don't tell me it's the view: if I want a nice view I'll go for an ocean, not a canyon.

Utah has high industry and low cost of living. The economy has been booming with California transplants (like myself) who move here to raise families and work. Also we get a lot of outdoor enthusiats here who like the broad range of outdoor experiences. In most of our larger cities you are literally 15 mins away from Snow skiing, water skiing, desert hiking, mountain hiking, rock climbing and many other outdoor activities.

I saw a BBC school documentary one morning when I was bored (really) and this programme was looking at Utah and places like Death Valley in California and I have to wonder, did they just colonise and then continue to live there just to prove they could or is there something in the (limited) water supply?

I believe the mormons originally settled here because Brigham Young upon mistaking the Great Salt Lake for the pacific ocean declared "This is the place" or some nonsense like that. I'm sure he didn't want to look stupid so he decided to stay. But you should all be glad...they might have ended up in L.A. [/quote]

[Kamakazie Sith]

OK, what's the draw then? And don't tell me it's the view: if I want a nice view I'll go for an ocean, not a canyon.

Jcow79 got most of them but another pro I wanted to add is quiet neighboorhoods. That's one of the other reasons I hear from people who moved to Utah from other states. Not saying Utah is the only state with quiet neighboorhoods, and I'm not saying Utah doesn't have its crime problems.

[Knife]

All this is just a matter of preference though. It's like arguing about which pizza is better. Basically this is a pointless discussion, and I'm sorry I got involved. If you don't like Utah fine, but I at least hope you'll visit sometime to see for yourself.

OK, what's the draw then? And don't tell me it's the view: if I want a nice view I'll go for an ocean, not a canyon.

*shrugs* why would one choose to live in Wyoming, the Dakota's, Sachatchewan, Yukon, or the North West Territories.

Utah isn't all desert. The Watchasch mountains are beautiful, hiking and camping in the Uinta's isn't that different than up in the Siera Nevada mountains. It has all the 'outdoor' draws, fishing, boating, skiing, hunting, hiking, awesome ass camping. Hell, there was a serious mining effort in the 19th century that left ghost towns and all maner of shafts and mines for splunkers and geology nuts.

The states small population is clustered in a few population centers, which gives you a few cities that have a city feel, while still having miles and miles of open territory for rural fun.

Cost of living is meh, but plenty of jobs in various fields. Indurstry has boomed here for quite a while.

The only real problem I have with the state is the strangle hold of the church. But unfortunately, you can find that in a lot of places.

The only thing I wish I could get, is more Ocean. In fact, if California would just break off and float away, I think I could get some of that. And I prefer Utah to California.

[Mayabird]

Jcow79 got most of them but another pro I wanted to add is quiet neighboorhoods. That's one of the other reasons I hear from people who moved to Utah from other states. Not saying Utah is the only state with quiet neighboorhoods, and I'm not saying Utah doesn't have its crime problems.

Are they quiet neighborhoods because nothing ever happens in them? I'm not talking about "no crime=quiet neighborhood" here. I'm talking about nothing at all happening because people are boring drones with no personality who don't do anything. That kind of "quiet neighborhood" wouldn't be a pro for me.

[Kamakazie Sith]

Jcow79 got most of them but another pro I wanted to add is quiet neighboorhoods. That's one of the other reasons I hear from people who moved to Utah from other states. Not saying Utah is the only state with quiet neighboorhoods, and I'm not saying Utah doesn't have its crime problems.

Are they quiet neighborhoods because nothing ever happens in them? I'm not talking about "no crime=quiet neighborhood" here. I'm talking about nothing at all happening because people are boring drones with no personality who don't do anything. That kind of "quiet neighborhood" wouldn't be a pro for me.

Perhaps you could be more specific as to what you are looking for? As for people being drones with no personality? No, most the people I've met have personalities and are anything but drones.

[Knife]

Jcow79 got most of them but another pro I wanted to add is quiet neighboorhoods. That's one of the other reasons I hear from people who moved to Utah from other states. Not saying Utah is the only state with quiet neighboorhoods, and I'm not saying Utah doesn't have its crime problems.

Are they quiet neighborhoods because nothing ever happens in them? I'm not talking about "no crime=quiet neighborhood" here. I'm talking about nothing at all happening because people are boring drones with no personality who don't do anything. That kind of "quiet neighborhood" wouldn't be a pro for me.

Yes and no. There is crime in Utah. In fact, Kamakazies location tag says Ogden, and I wouldn't live in downtown Ogden if you payed me. That said, a fair chunk of the people party on down at the local ward (boring) but there is a night life here.

[Kamakazie Sith]

Jcow79 got most of them but another pro I wanted to add is quiet neighboorhoods. That's one of the other reasons I hear from people who moved to Utah from other states. Not saying Utah is the only state with quiet neighboorhoods, and I'm not saying Utah doesn't have its crime problems.

Are they quiet neighborhoods because nothing ever happens in them? I'm not talking about "no crime=quiet neighborhood" here. I'm talking about nothing at all happening because people are boring drones with no personality who don't do anything. That kind of "quiet neighborhood" wouldn't be a pro for me.

Yes and no. There is crime in Utah. In fact, Kamakazies location tag says Ogden, and I wouldn't live in downtown Ogden if you payed me. That said, a fair chunk of the people party on down at the local ward (boring) but there is a night life here.

LOL I specifically live in North Ogden. South of 12th is where Ogden starts to get ugly.

As for a night life I like to hit the clubs once and a while. I stay away from the raves though...those people are weird.

[Knife]

LOL I specifically live in North Ogden. South of 12th is where Ogden starts to get ugly.

As for a night life I like to hit the clubs once and a while. I stay away from the raves though...those people are weird.

Meh, your out in the boonies. I grew up in South Ogden. Much livelier there.

One of these days, I gotta get you out to Clearfield for a beer (deluted as it is)

[jcow79]

Jcow79 got most of them but another pro I wanted to add is quiet neighboorhoods. That's one of the other reasons I hear from people who moved to Utah from other states. Not saying Utah is the only state with quiet neighboorhoods, and I'm not saying Utah doesn't have its crime problems.

Are they quiet neighborhoods because nothing ever happens in them? I'm not talking about "no crime=quiet neighborhood" here. I'm talking about nothing at all happening because people are boring drones with no personality who don't do anything. That kind of "quiet neighborhood" wouldn't be a pro for me.

Utah actually has rather high per capita levels of personal theft and domestic violence. But we have a low murder rate. So we do have crime...just not a lot of the kind that makes the news. Mark Hacking is the exception.

[Knife]

Utah actually has rather high per capita levels of personal theft and domestic violence. But we have a low murder rate. So we do have crime...just not a lot of the kind that makes the news. Mark Hacking is the exception.

I blame it on the green jello.

[jcow79]

Utah actually has rather high per capita levels of personal theft and domestic violence. But we have a low murder rate. So we do have crime...just not a lot of the kind that makes the news. Mark Hacking is the exception.

I blame it on the green jello.

I thought we lost that title this year?

[Knife]

I thought we lost that title this year?

Did I say green jello? I meant the prozac and bankruptcy.

[jcow79]

Since Logan UT is really nothing more than a college town, what's the potential that data collection is nothing more than a college study?

[Knife]

Since Logan UT is really nothing more than a college town, what's the potential that data collection is nothing more than a college study?

Well, in honesty, Logan is a college town and a super cell of fundie mormanism, only to be beat by the good folk in happy valley. Your probably looking at the two major groups of people skirmishing with each other. I hope the winner is somewhere in the middle.

[Kamakazie Sith]

LOL I specifically live in North Ogden. South of 12th is where Ogden starts to get ugly.

As for a night life I like to hit the clubs once and a while. I stay away from the raves though...those people are weird.

Meh, your out in the boonies. I grew up in South Ogden. Much livelier there.

One of these days, I gotta get you out to Clearfield for a beer (deluted as it is)

I'd be happy to take you up on that offer. The only problem is my free time...with the police academy, the AFRES, and a girlfriend I don't have a lot of time on my hands. However, after April 2005 my schedule will be less bulky

[Wicked Pilot]

Like gangs, people who use pornography have associated traits, and we'll define them so we can link them to crimes and pornography.

Let me save you some time and effort there Sherlock, they're almost all men.

[sketerpot]

If they were doing this properly and figuring out the chances that people have certain types of porn given that they are criminals or noncriminals (or a better choice would probably be violent or non-violent criminals), they might get some statistics that could be useful in Bayesian inference as one of many statistical factors considered.

There's precious little chance of something like that ever happening, though. Chances are they'll just say that porn is evil while using this as an excuse to look at porn.

[The Dark]

What's with all the South bashing on this site? Not all of us are crazy fundies!

Keep that "averages don't matter, generalized statements are always bad" attitude in mind the next time you say something about the Middle East.

*sigh* It does seem to be rather common, though. I've been in Florida for 20 years, and run across people from all portions of the spectrum, from raging fundies to socialists to militant anti-religionists. I will admit, there does seem to be a higher proportion of religious fundamentalism in the south; this fits with the theory that religious conservatism is in some way connected to poverty and lack of social mobility, given that the south overall is much poorer than the rest of America (slightly over half the per capita income of New England, and about two-thirds per capita comapred to the rest of the nation). However, it is not universal that southerners are fundies. I certainly am not, and I would estimate that at least two-thirds of the religion department at my school would be considered average members of this board; all the professors are Democrats.

[The Yosemite Bear]

Can't be, otherwise you'd discount half of Japanese porn..

People acting isn't illegal as far as I'm aware. Videos of the real thing are.

erm yes moster from the outer demensions, christie, that's a wrap, good roleplaying folks but Ashcroft and Utah are shutting us down....