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Of course, I don't think anyone will actually listen. Too bad we can't get Bono or Al Gore to promote this.Oil prices hit a record high of $97 a barrel on Tuesday, but the next generation of consumers could look back on that price with envy. The dire predictions of a key report on international oil supplies released Wednesday suggest that oil prices could move irreversibly over the $100 a barrel threshold in the not too distant future, as the global economy faces a serious energy shortage.
This gloomy assessment comes from the International Energy Agency, the Paris-based organization representing the 26 rich, gas-guzzling member nations of the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development (OECD). The agency is not known for alarmist warnings, and its World Energy Outlook is typically viewed by policy wonks as a solid indicator of global energy supplies. In a marked change from its traditionally bland, measured tones, the IEA's 2007 report says governments need to make urgent, bold decisions on energy policy, or risk massive environmental and energy-supply crises within two decades — crises and shortages that could spark serious global conflicts.
"I am sorry to say this, but we are headed toward really bad days," IEA chief economist Fatih Birol told TIME this week. "Lots of targets have been set but very little has been done. There is a lot of talk and no action." .
The reason for the IEA's alarm is its expectation that economic development will raise global energy demands by about 50% in a generation, from today's 85 million barrels a day to about 116 million barrels a day in 2030. Nearly half that increase in demand will come from just two countries — China and India, which are electrifying hundreds of cities and putting millions of new cars on their roads, most driven by people who once walked, or rode bicycles and buses. By 2030, those two countries will be responsible for two-thirds of the world's carbon gas emissions, which are the primary human activity causing global warming .
India and China have argued against enforcing strict emission controls in their countries, on the grounds that these could hinder their economic growth and prompt a global economic slowdown. But the new IEA report says working with China and India on alternative energy sources and curbing emissions is a matter of global urgency.
The bad news is not only environmental. As the world scrambles to boost energy supplies over the next two decades, an ever-greater percentage of its supplies of oil and gas will come from a dwindling number of countries, largely arrayed around the Persian Gulf, as the massive North Sea and Gulf of Mexico deposits are finally exhausted. That will leave the industrialized countries far more dependent on the volatile Middle East in 2030 than they are today, and the likes of Saudi Arabia, Kuwait and Iran will dictate terms to companies like ExxonMobil and Chevron, which increasingly operate as contractors to state-run oil companies in many producer nations.
"Most of the oil companies are going to be in an identity crisis, and need to redefine their business strategies," Birol says. The soul-searching may have already begun, as oil executives begin sounding the alarm about the supply crunch that lies ahead. Last week, Christophe de Margerie, CEO of the French oil giant Total, told the Financial Times that even the target of 100 million barrels a day is an optimistic one for an industry that currently produces 85 million — far short of the 116 million barrels a day the IEA projects will be needed by 2030 to fuel the global economy.
And in a sharp departure from the usually reassuring comments offered by Big Oil executives, De Margerie said companies and governments now realize that they have overestimated the amount of oil that could be extracted from places difficult to reach and costly to explore. "It is not my view, it is the industry view," he said. In other words, the message is that the current sky-high oil prices may not be a temporary burden on the world economy.
Forecasting prices, however, has become an increasingly inexact science for analysts, as prices in recent months have galloped ahead of their worst predictions. Says Oswald Clint, a London-based analyst for Sanford Bernstein: "A year ago, our predictions for November 2007 were about $50 to $62 dollars a barrel" — at least $35 short of Tuesday's price. The oil-research firm predicts that expanded production will bring oil prices back to $70 a barrel by 2010. But to Birol, that sounds optimistic.
"If you want to lower prices you have to slow down oil demand growth in China and India, use cars more efficiently, use biofuels, and also convince producing countries to pump more oil," says Birol. But he is uncertain any of that will happen. "I don't see the political will." Then again, nothing fuels political will like a soaring price at the gas pump.
You're saying we're all going to have an OCP?Admiral Valdemar wrote:Holy shit! Peak oil being discussed with Jeremy Leggett on Newsnight now and apparently A Crude Awakening opens in theatres here this week too.
The shit has hit the fan. I can't wait for the EIA petroleum report next week once Mexico's losses have finally been factored in.
Certain people will make money. One of the strange phenomena about capitalism is the way everyone reads the news and thinks they will automatically benefit from "economic growth" even if their own personal income shows no signs whatsoever of increasing.Stas Bush wrote:Idiots in Russia have been crying their eyes out of joy. "Saudi A-Russia Dream Come True!" "With Such Prices, Every Russian Could be given 10,000 USD at Birth!" and similar bullcrap in the news and papers.
Of course, spiralling oil prices also drive up food prices, combined with biofuel hysteria - and in general reduce the energy supply to productive industries. But the Oil Utopia is in da nearest yearz! Yeah! Supply of oil would be dwindling and higher prices are only compensating that fall? Try talking to a brick wall.
I just can't express my frustration at those morons.
Because as we all know, economic growth will always trickle down and make everyone richer. Too bad it doesn't work that way in the real world.Darth Wong wrote:One of the strange phenomena about capitalism is the way everyone reads the news and thinks they will automatically benefit from "economic growth" even if their own personal income shows no signs whatsoever of increasing.
What's really interesting is the way people react in a completely different way if it's an employer. If your employer has been reporting strong earnings growth for the past 30 years but hasn't given you a raise in all that time, employees would be absolutely enraged. But the same situation is true in the country as a whole for the bottom 80% of earners, and no one thinks anyone at all is wrong.aerius wrote:Because as we all know, economic growth will always trickle down and make everyone richer. Too bad it doesn't work that way in the real world.Darth Wong wrote:One of the strange phenomena about capitalism is the way everyone reads the news and thinks they will automatically benefit from "economic growth" even if their own personal income shows no signs whatsoever of increasing.
You bought us a year. Well done. Another hundred million people to create impossible demand.How about some positive news amidst all the doom and gloom?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/7086264.stm
It'll take a decade to get this up and running full speed from what I understand so I think it'll be used instead to buy time and soften the blow primarily to the US who'll be closest and richest.Androsphinx wrote:You bought us a year. Well done. Another hundred million people to create impossible demand.How about some positive news amidst all the doom and gloom?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/7086264.stm
Damnit, that stopped being funny 20 posts ago.Illuminatus Primus wrote:Look, there's six Saudi Arabias in Siberia and they only need Amerikan Capitalism to get it out. Climate change will never be a problem. We need to increase military spending! Deploy forces and use waterboarding on the Greenomunist threat!
Party pooper.Colonel Olrik wrote:Damnit, that stopped being funny 20 posts ago.Illuminatus Primus wrote:Look, there's six Saudi Arabias in Siberia and they only need Amerikan Capitalism to get it out. Climate change will never be a problem. We need to increase military spending! Deploy forces and use waterboarding on the Greenomunist threat!