Abstinence-Only Drug Policies Fail. Time to Legalize.

[Illuminatus Primus]

So what if it messes me up? What harm does it do to others?

I could see how a guy who has no children might be shallow enough to think this is a devastating argument.

If you're smart enough to know you should not have children, and in a world where a huge chunk shouldn't anyway, I don't see what the problem is.

[Darth Wong]

So what if it messes me up? What harm does it do to others?

I could see how a guy who has no children might be shallow enough to think this is a devastating argument.

If you're smart enough to know you should not have children, and in a world where a huge chunk shouldn't anyway, I don't see what the problem is.

Oh yes, of course, I'm sure that all of the people who think they will never have children at 19 actually do go on to live a child-free life. Look, I've said before that I think prohibition is not working, but that doesn't mean I have to buy into this bullshit notion that drug use is harmless.

[The Yosemite Bear]

remember addiction, like Bi-polar disorders fucking marathons/horse races through my family. of course with the current generation I can count on less than a hand the number who aren't suffering from ADHD, Aspergers, or other autism spectrum disorders...

[Flagg]

I could see how a guy who has no children might be shallow enough to think this is a devastating argument.

If you're smart enough to know you should not have children, and in a world where a huge chunk shouldn't anyway, I don't see what the problem is.

Oh yes, of course, I'm sure that all of the people who think they will never have children at 19 actually do go on to live a child-free life. Look, I've said before that I think prohibition is not working, but that doesn't mean I have to buy into this bullshit notion that drug use is harmless.

That's a problem I have with alot of the legalization/decriminalization movement as a whole. This idea that they have to make the argument that drugs are harmless to get their agenda across. Because admitting that there are harmful effects of drug use would somehow undermine the entire campaign.

What should be the argument is simply that legalized/decriminalized drug use is less harmful than the current prohibition of said drug use. That's easily proven, and completely takes the piss out of the fucktarded pseudo-moralist "gotcha" dicksnots in the media.

[Illuminatus Primus]

I could see how a guy who has no children might be shallow enough to think this is a devastating argument.

If you're smart enough to know you should not have children, and in a world where a huge chunk shouldn't anyway, I don't see what the problem is.

Oh yes, of course, I'm sure that all of the people who think they will never have children at 19 actually do go on to live a child-free life. Look, I've said before that I think prohibition is not working, but that doesn't mean I have to buy into this bullshit notion that drug use is harmless.

I said IF. I do not use drugs. I do not drink more than two drinks in a night and I strictly keep that to less than a day a month now. Nor is Durandal 19. Surely people do make impulsive decisions. I never said it applied to everyone. But certainly if someone limits their discretions to themselves, what do I care? I speak merely from the premise of that alone. Generally, people drink too much and use drugs and try to use social acceptance of stupid decisions to excuse it.

[Darth Wong]

I said IF. I do not use drugs. I do not drink more than two drinks in a night and I strictly keep that to less than a day a month now. Nor is Durandal 19. Surely people do make impulsive decisions. I never said it applied to everyone. But certainly if someone limits their discretions to themselves, what do I care? I speak merely from the premise of that alone. Generally, people drink too much and use drugs and try to use social acceptance of stupid decisions to excuse it.

The empirical evidence is against you. Most people do eventually have children. Most people are directly responsible to someone other than themselves. Almost everyone I ever knew who said they didn't want to have kids ... guess where they ended up? In their thirties, forking over thousands of dollars to fertility clinics trying to get pregnant because they changed their fucking minds and the clock is ticking.

Moreover, society invests a great deal in you; you owe society. You can't argue that you owe society nothing unless you bury your head in the sand.