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Lord Poe wrote:Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bnK-SnL0tBs (It's ok to watch; its just a news report.

According to this, she sat on the toilet for about a month, but "lived" in the bathroom for 2 years. Since this is a mobile home, I doubt it had a second bathroom. Ugh...
Now THIS makes a hell of a lot more sense. In that news report, the reporters says that when the police arrived:
"...they found a 35 year-old woman stuck on the toilet. But she wasn't tied or bound. Instead, police say she had sat on the toilet for what could have been more than a month, causing her muscles and legs to form around the seat. Investigators also believe she hadn't left the bathroom for more than two years."
That is NOT what the OP says. It's nothing like being on a toilet for two years.
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Wyrm wrote:How did Toilet Woman not die from pressure ulcers before growing into her toilet?
Well, pressure ulcers have extremely poor circulation - that's one reason the tissue dies - so even if the dead tissue is infected or rotting or toxic there isn't enough circulation to carry that nasty stuff to healthy tissue.

It is possible to have pressure wounds on that go right down to the bones without killing the patient (well, not too quickly)
And that has got to be the most spic-and-span toilet seat in the universe, if she's not gangrenous...
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Lord Poe wrote:Question: Where did the boyfriend use the bathroom in those 2 years?
Was there a second bathroom in the place?

Anyway, with regards to the Japanese men who can't ejaculate during vaginal sex, I don't buy the article's explanation about physical sensation being the limiting factor. Sex is physical pleasure but it is also very heavily psychological, and if a man is having performance anxiety or too much stress or any of a variety of other problems, he might not be able to perform.

Maybe a lot of Japanese women act like they do in porn, which is to say that they lie there like dead fish and make moaning sounds which sound more like pain than pleasure. I know that would fuck up my mojo.
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The article you linked has one person's interpretation on the futanari thing. The train thing though I don't disagree with.
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I find that interpretation makes sense in terms of the male-dominated nature of Japanes culture, and I agree with it. Your mileage may vary.
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Vehrec wrote:This is not counting what I hear passes for romance in their classical literature- four women and one 13 year old girl getting raped by a samurai is not an admirable act, even in the 16th century. I could go on about all the things that are wrong with Japan, I really could.
Are you referring to 'The Tale of Genji'? (I haven't read it, so I can't say.)
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Sidewinder wrote:Are you referring to 'The Tale of Genji'? (I haven't read it, so I can't say.)
I hope he's not, because he's only managed to miss the mark by at least 400 years if he's referring to Genji Monogatari. Genji Monogatari was written and set in Heian Era Japan, roughly from the 8th to the 12th Century, AD. Although off the top of my head I can't remember any classical Japanese literature that involves so much lamentations of their women... :lol:

(Just in case Vehrec IS referring to Genji Monogatari: dude, that ain't a romance, it's more like a lost brother to War and Peace!)

Back on topic though, isn't it the trend that the wealthier a country gets, the lower the birthrate goes? America's not in that boat yet due to immigration, but Japan doesn't have that mitigating factor. If you discounted first generation and second generation immigrants, would this trend also suddenly appear in all First World nations?
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I would love to read a paper detailing on how a country could develop such a crippling amount of social neurosis. I mean, the place isn't even an African shithole warzone.
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Dendrobius wrote:
Sidewinder wrote:Are you referring to 'The Tale of Genji'? (I haven't read it, so I can't say.)
I hope he's not, because he's only managed to miss the mark by at least 400 years if he's referring to Genji Monogatari. Genji Monogatari was written and set in Heian Era Japan, roughly from the 8th to the 12th Century, AD. Although off the top of my head I can't remember any classical Japanese literature that involves so much lamentations of their women... :lol:

(Just in case Vehrec IS referring to Genji Monogatari: dude, that ain't a romance, it's more like a lost brother to War and Peace!)
The Tale of Genji might not be a romance, novel but it's main drawing points are the various romances that Genji has throughout the story.

From what I've read of it, it's pretty sick. In the sections of the book that I've read, he rapes a woman, who if I remember correctly dies from depression thanks to the experience, and kidnaps a ten year old girl, A TEN YEAR OLD GIRL, so he can raise her to become his wife.
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Lord Poe wrote:Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bnK-SnL0tBs (It's ok to watch; its just a news report.

According to this, she sat on the toilet for about a month, but "lived" in the bathroom for 2 years. Since this is a mobile home, I doubt it had a second bathroom. Ugh...
It's definately possible. Many mobile homes are 2 bed 2 bath.
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une wrote:
Dendrobius wrote:
Sidewinder wrote:Are you referring to 'The Tale of Genji'? (I haven't read it, so I can't say.)
I hope he's not, because he's only managed to miss the mark by at least 400 years if he's referring to Genji Monogatari. Genji Monogatari was written and set in Heian Era Japan, roughly from the 8th to the 12th Century, AD. Although off the top of my head I can't remember any classical Japanese literature that involves so much lamentations of their women... :lol:

(Just in case Vehrec IS referring to Genji Monogatari: dude, that ain't a romance, it's more like a lost brother to War and Peace!)
The Tale of Genji might not be a romance, novel but it's main drawing points are the various romances that Genji has throughout the story.

From what I've read of it, it's pretty sick. In the sections of the book that I've read, he rapes a woman, who if I remember correctly dies from depression thanks to the experience, and kidnaps a ten year old girl, A TEN YEAR OLD GIRL, so he can raise her to become his wife.
That's about the size of it.
He's also married at the time, by the way. She is haunted (while pregnant!) by the angry ghost of this older, widowed (I think) noblewoman who Genji seduced and then abandoned...oh, and by the way, the noblewoman in question is still alive and doesn't realize she's haunting her!

The Tale of Genji is weird. And mostly very, very boring.
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Slight update on the toilet seat woman -

The local free metro news paper had a brief article about it (2 paragraphs)

Apparently, the local sheriff for the incident stated it's a case involving two mentally challenged individuals
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Solauren wrote:Apparently, the local sheriff for the incident stated it's a case involving two mentally challenged individuals
That starts to make a little more sense... but really, it's sad. I'd prefer not to restrict people any more than necessary, but really, having someone drop by occasionally to make sure everything is alright is a very good idea and needn't be overly intrusive.
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Molyneux wrote:
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Dendrobius wrote: I hope he's not, because he's only managed to miss the mark by at least 400 years if he's referring to Genji Monogatari. Genji Monogatari was written and set in Heian Era Japan, roughly from the 8th to the 12th Century, AD. Although off the top of my head I can't remember any classical Japanese literature that involves so much lamentations of their women... :lol:

(Just in case Vehrec IS referring to Genji Monogatari: dude, that ain't a romance, it's more like a lost brother to War and Peace!)
The Tale of Genji might not be a romance, novel but it's main drawing points are the various romances that Genji has throughout the story.

From what I've read of it, it's pretty sick. In the sections of the book that I've read, he rapes a woman, who if I remember correctly dies from depression thanks to the experience, and kidnaps a ten year old girl, A TEN YEAR OLD GIRL, so he can raise her to become his wife.
That's about the size of it.
He's also married at the time, by the way. She is haunted (while pregnant!) by the angry ghost of this older, widowed (I think) noblewoman who Genji seduced and then abandoned...oh, and by the way, the noblewoman in question is still alive and doesn't realize she's haunting her!

The Tale of Genji is weird. And mostly very, very boring.
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SAMAS wrote:No Giant Enemy Crabs, then?
Unfortunately, no...
Some of the poetry is lovely, but that's about the best thing I can say about it. It's a meandering, pointless story without any real plot to speak of - it's noteworthy only in that it can be viewed as the world's first novel, I guess.
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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080320/ap_ ... n_bathroom
NESS CITY, Kan. - A man whose girlfriend authorities say spent nearly two years in a bathroom in their house, sitting on the toilet so long that the seat adhered to her body, has been charged with mistreatment of a dependent adult.
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Kory McFarren, 37, was charged Monday in Ness County District Court.

McFarren called the Ness County Sheriff's Office in late February to say something was wrong with his girlfriend. When authorities arrived at the home, they found Pam Babcock, 35, stuck to the toilet, which they think she had sat on for about a month.

McFarren told authorities that Babcock feared leaving the bathroom and may not have left it in two years, although said he was unsure how long she was in there. He said that he took her food and water daily, and that he repeatedly asked her to come out but that she usually replied "maybe tomorrow."

"The only thing I am guilty of is I didn't get her help sooner," McFarren told The Associated Press nearly a week ago.

Ness County Attorney Craig Crosswhite said the mistreatment charge most closely fit the situation.

"I looked at the statutes and spoke to the attorney general's office," he said. "This was a very unusual set of circumstances, and this is the law that most closely applied to the situation."

Authorities said Babcock sat on the toilet so long that open sores developed and caused her to become attached to the seat. Sheriff Bryan Whipple has said that he used a pry bar to remove the seat from the toilet, and that the woman was taken to the hospital with the seat still attached.

"She would have to be sleeping on the toilet," Whipple said.

Doctors at a Wichita hospital where Babcock was taken told McFarren that an infection in her legs had damaged her nerves and could leave her in a wheelchair. She was still at the hospital Wednesday night.

McFarren's first court appearance will be in April, Crosswhite said.
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I'm a little suspicious of the bathroom thing. Grown around the toilet? Has anybody besides the nurse ever heard the words "pressure ulcer"?, and sheriff Whipple? As in Mr "please don't squeeze the Charmin" Whipple?
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Sounds more like it was a matter of pressure sores developing and she stuck to the toilet rather than grew into it. OK, makes sense that if she doesn't come off it easily the paramedics would remove the seat and leave the docs at the ER to deal with prying it off. The paramedics don't want to make things worse, their job is to get the person to the hospital still breathing.
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mingo wrote:I'm a little suspicious of the bathroom thing. Grown around the toilet? Has anybody besides the nurse ever heard the words "pressure ulcer"?, and sheriff Whipple? As in Mr "please don't squeeze the Charmin" Whipple?
The more details that come out, the more sense this makes.

However, one of the things above mentioned that her legs had atrophied around the toilet after she'd sat on it in a month. It that even possible, to have atrophied legs after a month? I suppose, if true, her overall health could play a part in that.
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FSTargetDrone wrote:It that even possible, to have atrophied legs after a month?
Sure.

In fact, if you're essentially motionless the atrophy would start in a matter of days, a week - it doesn't take that long to get started. Use 'em or lose 'em.
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Broomstick wrote:
FSTargetDrone wrote:It that even possible, to have atrophied legs after a month?
Sure.

In fact, if you're essentially motionless the atrophy would start in a matter of days, a week - it doesn't take that long to get started. Use 'em or lose 'em.
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Broomstick wrote:In fact, if you're essentially motionless the atrophy would start in a matter of days, a week - it doesn't take that long to get started. Use 'em or lose 'em.
Wow. Never knew that.

I just don't understand why she didn't fall off of the toilet at some point, well before she got "adhered" to it.
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