What we have to look forward to after 4 years of Obama

[Phantasee]

Yes, there is that exception. The 1st thing I learned at scoutmaster orientation is their cornerstone principle of "Two-deep leadership" which says in short: If you don't have 2 or more adult leaders going, you're not going at all.

I made some completely inappropriate associations when I read "Two-deep".

Is it my imagination, or does the religious far-right reduce homosexuals to sociopaths who can't control their urges for more than 30 minutes? A gay man would have as much desire to molest a young boy as a hetero man would to molest a young girl, and yet they're constantly characiturized as sexual deviants with no control. It makes me sad to be a Christian.

This is what these people used to say about black people, remember? They've always had a fear of Other men raping their nice virtuous Christian women. Nothing really new here.

[TimothyC]

Guns: “The land of the free”? It is now illegal for private citizens to own guns for self defense in eight states, and the number is growing with increasing Democratic control of state legislatures and governorships.

In America? Not going to happen.

Someone doesn't follow the Supreme Court:

Link. That was a 5-4 Decision.

[General Zod]

Guns: “The land of the free”? It is now illegal for private citizens to own guns for self defense in eight states, and the number is growing with increasing Democratic control of state legislatures and governorships.

In America? Not going to happen.

Someone doesn't follow the Supreme Court:

Link. That was a 5-4 Decision.

How is the Supreme Court striking down DC's gun ban as unconstitutional supposed to be an example of making it illegal for private citizens to own guns?

[TimothyC]

How is the Supreme Court striking down DC's gun ban as unconstitutional supposed to be an example of making it illegal for private citizens to own guns?

Flip one vote, and you flip the decision, and keep hand guns banned based on an interpretation of the Second amendment that puts the right of gun ownership as a right of the government. Not far from a "Second amendment mean government" to "Second amendment means government only" to a total ban on private gun ownership is it? Slippery slope, true, but one a lot less slippery than the rest of this drek (which I refuse to defend).

[Darth Wong]

Banning one specific kind of gun is not equivalent to banning them all.

[General Zod]

Flip one vote, and you flip the decision, and keep hand guns banned based on an interpretation of the Second amendment that puts the right of gun ownership as a right of the government. Not far from a "Second amendment mean government" to "Second amendment means government only" to a total ban on private gun ownership is it? Slippery slope, true, but one a lot less slippery than the rest of this drek (which I refuse to defend).

The fact that it was upheld is more than enough to dismiss the claims of banning firearms nothing more than lunatic ravings of idiots who don't understand how the legal system works. It's not as if the ruling can be overturned without a massive effort involved.

[K. A. Pital]

Wow, that fundie letter of insanity is so newsworthy... Why was this even posted in N&P? It's totally insane. How many people seriously think this is what will happen?

But yeah, Russia invades everyone and then we create the New Super Slavic Socialist Union. We also have Code Geass and Lelouch vi Russia as our leader, who is really the hidden long-time descendant of Stalin. There, I made it far scarier that the original version with the same degree of plausibility.

[ray245]

Wow, that fundie letter of insanity is so newsworthy... Why was this even posted in N&P? It's totally insane. How many people seriously think this is what will happen?

But yeah, Russia invades everyone and then we create the New Super Slavic Socialist Union. We also have Code Geass and Lelouch vi Russia as our leader, who is really the hidden long-time descendant of Stalin. There, I made it far scarier that the original version with the same degree of plausibility.

Does it even matter, who our ancestors are? It is our decision that matters, and it is our decisions that will be used by historians to judge us.

[K. A. Pital]

Does it even matter, who our ancestors are?

Are you actually a person or a chatbot? The latter seems to be true.

[ray245]

Does it even matter, who our ancestors are?

Are you actually a person or a chatbot? The latter seems to be true.

There is a certain amount of sarcasm in that sentence. I know that life sucks and so on, but that does not mean I can't be idealistic and hope for something that is utopian.

I think I'm one of the happiest person on this forum.

[Justforfun000]

Darth Wong Wrote:

People like me believe that pedophilia is a psychological disorder: the result of a malformed or disturbed mind. Normal people don't have these urges.

People like James Dobson believe that pedophilia is the result of "weakness", or people "falling to temptation": an argument which (disturbingly enough) presumes that we all have these urges, and some of us are just better at controlling them (presumably with God's help) than others. Personally, I think this implies that if they think everyone has these urges, they probably have these urges themselves.

That is so true. I am truly baffled when I hear people link homosexuality with pedophilia. You'd probably be surprised to discover how opposite the reality can be. In downtown Toronto here, I'm a "public" figure because I sing and play keyboard in the local gay bars. I know a LOT of people and do you know what I hear from the youngest members of the community? The 19 to 24 year olds complain that they are 'discriminated' against because if they want to go after an older guy, many times they tell me they prefer 30+...they keep getting the "you're too young. Sorry". Now personally I can also relate because I myself always preferred 30+. Even many 25 year olds just look like kids to me and the boyish look does nothing for me whatsoever. It's happened a few times where a 19 year old was hitting on me and it just freaked me out. I was diplomatic about it, but I wanted to say "You're like half my age, I could be your father. EW!" But if I said it that bluntly, I'd piss them off.

Granted it's not impossible to find people that like "chicken" as it's called...lol..but it's still a lot less common then you'd think. However being attracted to young adults of that age is not pedophilia..it's classified as Ephilophibia and it's far from illegal or immoral. It's certainly common enough in the hetero world, but ironically it seems a lot more common. There's a weird culture of tastes in the gay world and young men that prefer older men are considered to be 'daddy' chasers. Most of the time the assumption is even that they are hustlers and are after the money and comfortable lifestyle of an established older male. But I know some good friends who after being around long enough convinced me by their personal integrity and many years of companionship that they really DO like older guys. I don't mean old as in trolls mind you...good looking, fit 30+ dudes. In my own opinion men are the hottest in that 30ish age bracket. The boyish looks fade away and they ripen into a mature look that has the most character.

So the morons that parrot this bullshit about gays being boy chasers don't know their head from their ass. Just as an example of real significance since it's walking the walk....we had ONE hustler bar in Toronto for many years. It was called Sneakers and it was on Yonge St. just outside the gay village. It was sparsely populated by young twinks and the old men into that kind of thing, but it was never that busy...rarely visited by the majority of the gay community and in general reviled as a pick up bar. It shut down, changed it's name and is now a typical watering hole. There isn't even a place for that anymore. If it was SO prevelant, don't you think this place would have been a smash hit? Hell you can even have live sex shows in Toronto now and a place on Church st.. (outside the village again) has a somewhat twinky bunch working there and they still have a hard time getting much attention. Even though (because it's legal now) you can literally dick around with these boys, it's just not doing anything spectacular.

If pedophilia is so rampant in the gay lifestyle, don't you think these places would be booming like nuts? Now granted they are all legal....but Jesus, to me these 19 year olds look like 14. I don't remember looking that young when I was that age. Your perceptions get seriously skewed when you get older..lol

[His Divine Shadow]

I've never seen one of these "Yes on 8" Google ads. Google's ad system must be fairly sophisticated: sophisticated enough to know that I don't live in California so this ad is not targeted to me.

I'm not reading all that shit in the OP. I read the first few paragraphs of this "fantasy" letter, and I came away with the notion that I'll find a random cock in my ass if I vote for Obama, is that about it?

The impression that ad leaves me with is that proposition 8 is gonna prevent Obama and McCain from marrying.

[RazorOutlaw]

I read the first few sections expecting the author to write something else besides homosexuality, but each section was nothing more than gay bashing. I'm disappointed. And I sort of wish somebody would hack their website and replace the document with two men making out or something. Or maybe an even worse picture, like Jesus getting sucked off by Ron Jeremy.

[Darth Wong]

It really is amazing how much AmeriChristians are hung up on homosexuality. I personally suspect that their obsession with homosexuality is due to the fact that it's something they can point at and say "I rebuke you for your sin".

Without it, they might have to confront the irreconcilable paradox that they have the most materialistic society on Earth, yet worship a man who told his followers to forsake wealth and cast off their worldly possessions to follow him.

[General Zod]

It really is amazing how much AmeriChristians are hung up on homosexuality. I personally suspect that their obsession with homosexuality is due to the fact that it's something they can point at and say "I rebuke you for your sin".

I suspect it's more that they're secretly closeted and consider the prospect of anyone finding out absolutely terrifying. So they join the herd in attacking it so people don't think they're gay.

[Samuel]

It really is amazing how much AmeriChristians are hung up on homosexuality. I personally suspect that their obsession with homosexuality is due to the fact that it's something they can point at and say "I rebuke you for your sin".

I suspect it's more that they're secretly closeted and consider the prospect of anyone finding out absolutely terrifying. So they join the herd in attacking it so people don't think they're gay.

Nah- that would be over 10% of the population. I don't think homosexuality is that rampant.

I think Wong is right- it helps keep them from admitting they support laws that screw over the poor because they can't vote for people with "immoral" positions.

[General Zod]

Nah- that would be over 10% of the population. I don't think homosexuality is that rampant.

I think Wong is right- it helps keep them from admitting they support laws that screw over the poor because they can't vote for people with "immoral" positions.

It could just as easily be bi-curious leanings or bisexuality, but I still think they're spending so much time attacking it because they don't want people to see them as gay. Just look at how many Republican politicians and figures have had gay sex scandals while supporting oppressive anti-homosexual bills.

[Samuel]

Nah- that would be over 10% of the population. I don't think homosexuality is that rampant.

I think Wong is right- it helps keep them from admitting they support laws that screw over the poor because they can't vote for people with "immoral" positions.

It could just as easily be bi-curious leanings or bisexuality, but I still think they're spending so much time attacking it because they don't want people to see them as gay. Just look at how many Republican politicians and figures have had gay sex scandals while supporting oppressive anti-homosexual bills.

There are hundreds of Republican politicians. What we are seeing is that they are equally represented in the Republican party as the general population:)

[Shinn Langley Soryu]

Wow, that fundie letter of insanity is so newsworthy... Why was this even posted in N&P? It's totally insane. How many people seriously think this is what will happen?

But yeah, Russia invades everyone and then we create the New Super Slavic Socialist Union. We also have Code Geass and Lelouch vi Russia as our leader, who is really the hidden long-time descendant of Stalin. There, I made it far scarier that the original version with the same degree of plausibility.

Speaking of Code Geass...



Just as Lelouch succeeded Charles and vanquished Schneizel, Obama succeeded Bush and vanquished McCain. But then again, Obama never had to lead an armed insurgency in order to gain the presidency.

[Tanasinn]

Obama also isn't an androgenous Gary Stu who is constantly surrounded with massive-breasted women and advertisements for Pizza Hut.

[Guardsman Bass]

You know, one of my best friend's stepmom is exactly this type of fundamentalist Christian (although she's not really loud and noisy about it in person). I've been in her office, and she's got all the evangelical Christian newsletters, plus fundamentalist books, including (I shit you not) The Gay Agenda. I'll have to go over there this weekend and see how she reacted to the Obama win - I'll wager it's not far off from this e-mail.

[Junghalli]

People like James Dobson believe that pedophilia is the result of "weakness", or people "falling to temptation": an argument which (disturbingly enough) presumes that we all have these urges, and some of us are just better at controlling them (presumably with God's help) than others. Personally, I think this implies that if they think everyone has these urges, they probably have these urges themselves.

Well, they also have as one of the articles of their faith that humans are born inherently evil (original sin), and you can only be good by smooching God real hard all the time. When you think about that it's no surprise their default assumption is that everybody is some sort of seething barrel of depravity barely held in check. Come to think of it, when you look at it that way it's no surprise that people whose lifestyles differ from theirs scare them so much, as they consider religion the only bulwark against humanity's infinite natural depravity, so anybody who doesn't have it must be really evil.