Koolaidkirby wrote:Was anyone watching the CNN feed where Obama said something along the lines of "we must uphold the constitution and not betray it for the sake of expediency" or something along those lines,
Ha! Just saw Captain "Big Brass Ones" Sully in the background.
"The rifle itself has no moral stature, since it has no will of its own. Naturally, it may be used by evil men for evil purposes, but there are more good men than evil, and while the latter cannot be persuaded to the path of righteousness by propaganda, they can certainly be corrected by good men with rifles."
Rev. Joseph Lowery wrote:when black will not be asked to get back, brown can stick around, yellow will be mellow, the red man can get ahead, man, and white will embrace what is right! Amen!
He sounded like he was just making some light hearted jokes.
It struck my oh-so-sensitive sensibilities entirely the wrong way, but whatever. Back to the speech!
As for our common defense, we reject as false the choice between our safety and our ideals. Our founding fathers, faced with perils we can scarcely imagine, drafted a charter to assure the rule of law and the rights of man, a charter expanded by the blood of generations. Those ideals still light the world, and we will not give them up for expedience's sake. And so to all other peoples and governments who are watching today, from the grandest capitals to the small village where my father was born: know that America is a friend of each nation and every man, woman, and child who seeks a future of peace and dignity, and that we are ready to lead once more.
Two million people on the national mall today, and they say so many people watched the speech on TV and the net that they may not have an accurate count for a few days.
Stuart: The only problem is, I'm losing track of which universe I'm in.
You kinda look like Jesus. With a lightsaber.- Peregrin Toker
WASHINGTON – Chief Justice John Roberts swore in President-elect Barack Obama as president of the United States on Tuesday with a slight stumble over the wording of the oath of office in the first of what could be many important interactions between two men who rose to their positions of power quickly and who have some background similarities, but whose politics differ.
Separated by a Bible used by Abraham Lincoln at his first inaugural, Roberts asked Obama: "Are you prepared to take the oath, Senator?"
The former Illinois senator indicated he was, and Roberts started reciting — and Obama repeating — the 35-word oath that is prescribed by the Constitution.
But at one point, Obama paused abruptly after Roberts reversed several words in the oath.
The oath includes the phrase "that I will faithfully execute the office of president of the United States" but Roberts didn't say "faithfully" until after saying "president of the United States."
Obama apparently realized that something was out of order.
With Obama not reciting, Roberts then repeated the phrase correctly, the brief awkward moment ended and Obama was back on track.
He was then the first to congratulate Obama on his new job.
I honestly don't think its a big deal. Harrison was so drunk during his innauguration he had to have someone else swear in the junior senators.
Stuart: The only problem is, I'm losing track of which universe I'm in.
You kinda look like Jesus. With a lightsaber.- Peregrin Toker
I admit I never would have noticed that anything was off had Obama just gone along with Chief Justice Roberts' wording verbatim ("that I will execute the office of president of the United States faithfully").
"Yee's proposal is exactly the sort of thing I would expect some Washington legal eagle to do. In fact, it could even be argued it would be unrealistic to not have a scene in the next book of, say, a Congressman Yee submit the Yee Act for consideration. " - bcoogler on this
"My crystal ball is filled with smoke, and my hovercraft is full of eels." - Bayonet
Stark: "You can't even GET to heaven. You don't even know where it is, or even if it still exists." SirNitram: "So storm Hell." - From the legendary thread
I admit I never would have noticed that anything was off had Obama just gone along with Chief Justice Roberts' wording verbatim ("that I will execute the office of president of the United States faithfully").
Well, apparently the text of the oath IS mandated in the US Constitution Article II, Section I, so I'm glad he knew he had to get it right. Imagine the stink if he DIDN'T say the lines as written.
Stuart: The only problem is, I'm losing track of which universe I'm in.
You kinda look like Jesus. With a lightsaber.- Peregrin Toker
CNN reports a member of congress collapsed during the lunch.
"In view of the circumstances, Britannia waives the rules."
"All you have to do is to look at Northern Ireland, [...] to see how seriously the religious folks take "thou shall not kill. The more devout they are, the more they see murder as being negotiable." George Carlin
"We need to make gay people live in fear again! What ever happened to the traditional family values of persecution and lies?" - Darth Wong
"The closet got full and some homosexuals may have escaped onto the internet?"- Stormbringer
Wowza. Interesting to notice that the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court (and so far as I could see any other "oath reciter") isn't mentioned, it's all on the president-elect, so if you notice something wrong just shut up until the oath reciter gets it right.
Any time in history we've had a president-elect simply recite the words as in the Constitution (verbatim from the document) even if a Chief Justice got them wrong?
"Yee's proposal is exactly the sort of thing I would expect some Washington legal eagle to do. In fact, it could even be argued it would be unrealistic to not have a scene in the next book of, say, a Congressman Yee submit the Yee Act for consideration. " - bcoogler on this
"My crystal ball is filled with smoke, and my hovercraft is full of eels." - Bayonet
Stark: "You can't even GET to heaven. You don't even know where it is, or even if it still exists." SirNitram: "So storm Hell." - From the legendary thread
Well, I'm not even American and I was sufficiently inspired and impressed by that speech (listened to it on BBC World Service). Then when I got up and saw some of the televised coverage - my god that was huge crowd.
And people booing Bush anytime he had something to do? That I can approve of - someone must have designated a big "Free Speech Zone" today.
Edward Yee wrote:Any time in history we've had a president-elect simply recite the words as in the Constitution (verbatim from the document) even if a Chief Justice got them wrong?
FDR recited the oath without prompting
A life is like a garden. Perfect moments can be had, but not preserved, except in memory.Leonard Nimoy.
Now I did a job. I got nothing but trouble since I did it, not to mention more than a few unkind words as regard to my character so let me make this abundantly clear. I do the job. And then I get paid.- Malcolm Reynolds, Captain of Serenity, which sums up my feelings regarding the lawsuit discussed here.
If a free society cannot help the many who are poor, it cannot save the few who are rich. - John F. Kennedy
Raesene wrote:CNN reports a member of congress collapsed during the lunch.
MSNBC is reporting that Sen. Ted Kennedy was taken out of the luncheon on a stretcher.
CNN reports Sen Kennedy and Sen Byrd both required medical attention.
Broomstick wrote:
Edward Yee wrote:Any time in history we've had a president-elect simply recite the words as in the Constitution (verbatim from the document) even if a Chief Justice got them wrong?
FDR recited the oath without prompting
The first, the second or the third time ?
"In view of the circumstances, Britannia waives the rules."
"All you have to do is to look at Northern Ireland, [...] to see how seriously the religious folks take "thou shall not kill. The more devout they are, the more they see murder as being negotiable." George Carlin
"We need to make gay people live in fear again! What ever happened to the traditional family values of persecution and lies?" - Darth Wong
"The closet got full and some homosexuals may have escaped onto the internet?"- Stormbringer
Raesene wrote:CNN reports a member of congress collapsed during the lunch.
MSNBC is reporting that Sen. Ted Kennedy was taken out of the luncheon on a stretcher.
It's no secret Ted Kennedy is in extremely poor health and is, in fact, terminally ill. This may have been unexpected, but not entirely surprising.
A life is like a garden. Perfect moments can be had, but not preserved, except in memory.Leonard Nimoy.
Now I did a job. I got nothing but trouble since I did it, not to mention more than a few unkind words as regard to my character so let me make this abundantly clear. I do the job. And then I get paid.- Malcolm Reynolds, Captain of Serenity, which sums up my feelings regarding the lawsuit discussed here.
If a free society cannot help the many who are poor, it cannot save the few who are rich. - John F. Kennedy
Not entirely sure - it may have been all FOUR times!
A life is like a garden. Perfect moments can be had, but not preserved, except in memory.Leonard Nimoy.
Now I did a job. I got nothing but trouble since I did it, not to mention more than a few unkind words as regard to my character so let me make this abundantly clear. I do the job. And then I get paid.- Malcolm Reynolds, Captain of Serenity, which sums up my feelings regarding the lawsuit discussed here.
If a free society cannot help the many who are poor, it cannot save the few who are rich. - John F. Kennedy
Broomstick wrote:
It's no secret Ted Kennedy is in extremely poor health and is, in fact, terminally ill. This may have been unexpected, but not entirely surprising.
Broomstick wrote:
It's no secret Ted Kennedy is in extremely poor health and is, in fact, terminally ill. This may have been unexpected, but not entirely surprising.
I don't mean to be glib, but I hope he's alright.
AP says that he was responsive at the ambulance, so hopefully he's about as well as... well, as a terminally ill person is gonna be. Terminal illness sucks.
"Yee's proposal is exactly the sort of thing I would expect some Washington legal eagle to do. In fact, it could even be argued it would be unrealistic to not have a scene in the next book of, say, a Congressman Yee submit the Yee Act for consideration. " - bcoogler on this
"My crystal ball is filled with smoke, and my hovercraft is full of eels." - Bayonet
Stark: "You can't even GET to heaven. You don't even know where it is, or even if it still exists." SirNitram: "So storm Hell." - From the legendary thread
Been watching it, too, first on German TV then we zapped over to CNN to get rid of the translation. And yeah, Obama is good at speeches. My girlfriend even started to cry a bit because it was so inspirational and all.
The bits before the speech, well just wow @ all the religious stuff. I just had to imagine a goddamn priest present and Aretha Franklin singing gospel songs at the inauguration of the German chancellor - it's really quite ridiculous.
Also, it again speaks volumes about how euphoric the whole world is about Obama that people have been watching this all over the world.
Broomstick wrote:
It's no secret Ted Kennedy is in extremely poor health and is, in fact, terminally ill. This may have been unexpected, but not entirely surprising.
I don't mean to be glib, but I hope he's alright.
He suffered a seizure and was taken away on an ambulance. According to Sen. Hatch he was lucid by the time he get into the ambulance and is awake and well at the hospital, all things considered.
Byrd left the chamber in distress at Kennedy's condition, not for medical reasons.
Apparantly, the funky new NASA Moon Rover will be in the inaugural parade-- th eone that looks like the cockpit of a B-29 on shopping cart wheels.
I like how he mentioned in his speech to "restore science to it's rightful place"...
Something about Libertarianism always bothered me. Then one day, I realized what it was:
Libertarian philosophy can be boiled down to the phrase, "Work Will Make You Free."
In Libertarianism, there is no Government, so the Bosses are free to exploit the Workers.
In Communism, there is no Government, so the Workers are free to exploit the Bosses.
So in Libertarianism, man exploits man, but in Communism, its the other way around! If all you want to do is have some harmless, mindless fun, go H3RE INST3ADZ0RZ!! Grrr! Fight my Brute, you pansy!
The bits before the speech, well just wow @ all the religious stuff. I just had to imagine a goddamn priest present and Aretha Franklin singing gospel songs at the inauguration of the German chancellor - it's really quite ridiculous.
Nitpick: I fully agree about the high religiosity of the ceremony, but Franklin sang "America the Beautiful" not a gospel song.
No, she sang "My Country Tis of Thee" (same tune as "God Save the Queen") although it was a very non-traditional arrangement.
It was nice to hear "The Star Spangled Banner" done well for a change, but then the military musicians for these events are always real pros and great performers.
A life is like a garden. Perfect moments can be had, but not preserved, except in memory.Leonard Nimoy.
Now I did a job. I got nothing but trouble since I did it, not to mention more than a few unkind words as regard to my character so let me make this abundantly clear. I do the job. And then I get paid.- Malcolm Reynolds, Captain of Serenity, which sums up my feelings regarding the lawsuit discussed here.
If a free society cannot help the many who are poor, it cannot save the few who are rich. - John F. Kennedy
" - bcoogler on this
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