Unconfirmed Report - 130 US Soldiers killed in Iraq

Col. Crackpot · Post by **Col. Crackpot** » 2004-04-07 11:12am

evidently 40 were killed in the Mosque.

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Sir Sirius · Post by **Sir Sirius** » 2004-04-07 11:17am

Col. Crackpot wrote:evidently 40 were killed in the Mosque.

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I'm starting to think that this will get a lot worse before it gets any better.

Knife · Post by **Knife** » 2004-04-07 11:44am

Sir Sirius wrote:
Col. Crackpot wrote:evidently 40 were killed in the Mosque.

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I'm starting to think that this will get a lot worse before it gets any better.

You know, fuck it. Good. Cultural sensitivety only goes so far. Not a great PR move but how long are you going to let your self be picked apart and not fire back.

El Moose Monstero · Post by **El Moose Monstero** » 2004-04-07 11:49am

Well, the BBC is just reporting a strike on the mosque where the troops were dismembered, so it seems cultural sensistivity has just run out.

Knife · Post by **Knife** » 2004-04-07 11:49am

Appearently, reports of kidnapped servicemen have been going on all night. Now it has been updated to kidnapped journalists.

No real article on it yet but its on the front page of Fox News and heard it on the local radio (CBS affiliate).

Tribun · Post by **Tribun** » 2004-04-07 11:54am

This are surely not good news for Bush jr. and his Heo-conservatives.....

Sir Sirius · Post by **Sir Sirius** » 2004-04-07 11:54am

Knife wrote:You know, fuck it. Good. Cultural sensitivety only goes so far. Not a great PR move but how long are you going to let your self be picked apart and not fire back.

Whether the American attack on the mosque was justified or not, the problem is that this will serve to piss off a whole lot of muslims and further escalate the current conflict.

KrauserKrauser · Post by **KrauserKrauser** » 2004-04-07 12:00pm

Fuck 'em, you run into a church and fire on some cops outside they have every damn right to fire back at you. If you start using said church as say a platform for RPG's and mortars and heavier weapons are required to dislodge you then so be it. It might cause a blow to the image of the US but damn it, it had to be done.

Stravo · Post by **Stravo** » 2004-04-07 12:06pm

KrauserKrauser wrote:Fuck 'em, you run into a church and fire on some cops outside they have every damn right to fire back at you. If you start using said church as say a platform for RPG's and mortars and heavier weapons are required to dislodge you then so be it. It might cause a blow to the image of the US but damn it, it had to be done.

As sucky as this sounds, there has to be a certain amount of restraint when you're fighting in Iraq or any muslim country. You have to be careful not to touch off an event that will send tensions soaring higher than they already are. By striking at a mosque you're playing right into the hands of those who are painting the US as modern crusaders running amok in Muslim lands.

And frankly, Bush took us in knowing full well the implications involved so he has to play by those ground rules or he has to admit that he had no fucking clue what he was doing when he brought us in in the first place. He either brought into the fantasy world that the Iraqis would welcome us with open arms and kiss our feet or he was clueless as to what to expect if he doesn;t think we need to tread extra cautiously around muslim holy sites.

You could touch off an incident that would have muslims swarming from all over the mideast to come get a piece of us. If you don't want to play by those rules then we should never have gone in in the first place.

Knife · Post by **Knife** » 2004-04-07 12:07pm

Sir Sirius wrote:
Knife wrote:You know, fuck it. Good. Cultural sensitivety only goes so far. Not a great PR move but how long are you going to let your self be picked apart and not fire back.
Whether the American attack on the mosque was justified or not, the problem is that this will serve to piss off a whole lot of muslims and further escalate the current conflict.

It might (probably not but...) might serve as a warning. If we fuck up this mosque and give due warning that mosques are off limits if they aren't shooting at us, do you think some of the muslems will move to stop them from being used as firebases?

Obviously alot will be pissed off at it but if faced between using a mosque for the 'great cause' or having them wasted when they are used for such, do you think some of the Muslims would hesitate?

Post by **The Yosemite Bear** » 2004-04-07 12:18pm

The reminds me has anyone heard from our resident army dog boy (Coyote)?

looks like IB's yellow ribbon thread's going to be up for a while....

God I hope we don't start having an SDN "Gold Stars" thread....

KrauserKrauser · Post by **KrauserKrauser** » 2004-04-07 12:19pm

Well lets see, those fuckers are whacked out insane. They'll do anything and endanger anything to kill Americans. For some reason I don't think that anything like this will stop them. And since for the last 2+ decades the Iraqi people have been bred to be bullied and controlled I'm thinking this will continue to happen.

Sir Sirius · Post by **Sir Sirius** » 2004-04-07 12:19pm

Knife wrote:It might (probably not but...) might serve as a warning. If we fuck up this mosque and give due warning that mosques are off limits if they aren't shooting at us, do you think some of the muslems will move to stop them from being used as firebases?

Obviously alot will be pissed off at it but if faced between using a mosque for the 'great cause' or having them wasted when they are used for such, do you think some of the Muslims would hesitate?

While some muslims might see it as such and some might even be outraged that mosques are used in such a manner, I doubt that the radicals actualy doing the fighting will give a damn. Hell, knowing that every mosque destroyed by the Americans will help them enlist new recruits across the middle-east, they might even start using mosques as bases of operation just so that they could attract fire from the U.S. Military.

h0rus · Post by **h0rus** » 2004-04-07 12:45pm

Knife wrote:
Sir Sirius wrote:
Col. Crackpot wrote:evidently 40 were killed in the Mosque.

link
I'm starting to think that this will get a lot worse before it gets any better.
You know, fuck it. Good. Cultural sensitivety only goes so far. Not a great PR move but how long are you going to let your self be picked apart and not fire back.

If they were firing on US positions from within that, I'd say they were in their right to take out that mosque.

MKSheppard · Post by **MKSheppard** » 2004-04-07 01:10pm

Stravo wrote: As sucky as this sounds, there has to be a certain amount of restraint when you're fighting in Iraq or any muslim country.

Screw you stravo. Did US troops give a shit about shelling Churches
if German snipers were in the belltowers?

MKSheppard · Post by **MKSheppard** » 2004-04-07 01:13pm

These scum have to learn that they can't evade US troops by simply running
into a Mosque to hide. If you run into a mosque lugging a RPG and use
said Mosque as a base of fire...well, expect some 120MM tank fire to come
your way.

Post by **The Yosemite Bear** » 2004-04-07 01:20pm

And the british drew how much fire because the Boers were using hospitals to fire on them from?

Col. Crackpot · Post by **Col. Crackpot** » 2004-04-07 01:20pm

and the stort changes. 40 people were killed NEAR a mosque.

sometimes i swear the media wants this shit to blow sky high for news ratings.

so sayeth MSNBC

A wall surrounding the mosque was demolished, though the mosque itself was not damaged, the reporter, Abdul-Qader Saadi, said.

Rogue 9 · Post by **Rogue 9** » 2004-04-07 01:34pm

The Yosemite Bear wrote:And the british drew how much fire because the Boers were using hospitals to fire on them from?

The Boers? I thought the British were fighting the Bantu peoples, not the Dutch immigrants. Or was it both?

Shinova · Post by **Shinova** » 2004-04-07 01:34pm

A story can have many versions, but really, you news people, just stick with one and run with it!!!

Col. Crackpot · Post by **Col. Crackpot** » 2004-04-07 01:36pm

Shinova wrote:A story can have many versions, but really, you news people, just stick with one and run with it!!!

Just ask President Dewey!

Sir Sirius · Post by **Sir Sirius** » 2004-04-07 01:39pm

Col. Crackpot wrote:and the stort changes. 40 people were killed NEAR a mosque. sometimes i swear the media wants this shit to blow sky high for news ratings.

First the 120 dead Americans soldiers and now this, would it really be such an inconvenience to check a storie a bit more carefully before printing wild rumours?

Durandal · Post by **Durandal** » 2004-04-07 01:41pm

MKSheppard wrote:Screw you stravo. Did US troops give a shit about shelling Churches if German snipers were in the belltowers?

Of course not, but we weren't conducting a religious crusade over in Germany, either. We're trying to build a democracy in Iraq, and that won't happen if we just shit all over their religion, much as I hate to say it.

Col. Crackpot · Post by **Col. Crackpot** » 2004-04-07 01:41pm

Sir Sirius wrote:
Col. Crackpot wrote:and the stort changes. 40 people were killed NEAR a mosque. sometimes i swear the media wants this shit to blow sky high for news ratings.
First the 120 dead Americans soldiers and now this, would it really be such an inconvenience to check a storie a bit more carefully before printing wild rumours?

these aren't bullshit sources either... it's the fucking AP.... *Sigh.

HemlockGrey · Post by **HemlockGrey** » 2004-04-07 01:45pm

The Boers? I thought the British were fighting the Bantu peoples, not the Dutch immigrants. Or was it both?

Both. The Boers (not paragons of virtue in their own right) fought several wars with the British.