Burden of Proof Fallacy. The onus is upon the accusers to validate their charges, not the other way around.buzz_knox wrote:Whether the charge is valid or not can only be answered by seeing the records in question. Was Kerry framed for a crime by Nixon or did he actually violate the UCMJ but said violation was given a pass in order to separate him from the Navy with minimal fuss (which happens today frequently)? We don't know, and it is partisan to argue either case without the evidence. Given Kerry's reluctance to release the records, we'll never know. His reluctance is strange because if the records state what he says they state, then the Swift Boat vets and those arguing that he was DD'd would instantly and publicly be discredited and vilified by the press and the public.So real evidence of a dishonorable discharge please, not just this Republican partisan bullshit?
Mystery Surrounds Kerry's Navy Discharge
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On the contrary - I think it's certainly possible but not necessarily likely that the Nixon administration was punishing Kerry for being active in the VVAW. Kerry releasing ALL his records would clear it up. As Glocksman pointed out he has not signed Form 180 to permit their release.Edi wrote:Augustus, you spend an inordinate amount of time wondering about the review board of officers and why it was called, yet you do not find it remotely suspicious that President Nixon and his staff are on record discussing the possibilities of destroying Kerry because of his opposition to the war. The Secretary of the Navy and other high ranking people, up to and including the President, who according to your quoted exerpts has the possibility of ordering that very board of review, and who just happen to have it in for Kerry, and the possibility that they did indeed order that? So real evidence of a dishonorable discharge please, not just this Republican partisan bullshit?
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But as the article states if Kerry was on the Nixon enemies list then you would expect him to wear it like a badge of honor.
I don't think anyone could honestly believe that Kerry would prevent the release of records showing he was a target of a Nixon political hit. Nixon is one of the Left's most vilified and hated figures - he is the antithesis of what everyone in the protest/politics movement of the 60' and 70's stood for. Kerry keeping mum about his Navy service being trashed is akin to him protecting Nixon's reputation (such that it is).Edi wrote:... President Nixon and his staff are on record discussing the possibilities of destroying Kerry because of his opposition to the war....
**P.S. Sorry Edi I forgot to add this to my other post.