Bin Laden to Release 9/11 Tape

Invictus ChiKen · Post by **Invictus ChiKen** » 2007-09-06 05:48pm

Right now on the Situation room with Wolf Blitzer there reporting that Bin Laden is gonna release a tape on or about 9/11.

They (CNN) have a banner saying such across there homepage but nothing else at this time.

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SirNitram · Post by **SirNitram** » 2007-09-06 05:50pm

I wonder what Bush will do to try and one-up it.

Post by **Coyote** » 2007-09-06 05:50pm

SirNitram wrote:I wonder what Bush will do to try and one-up it.

Hump an intern?

Oh, wait. He'd actually get in trouble for that....

SirNitram · Post by **SirNitram** » 2007-09-06 05:58pm

Coyote wrote:
SirNitram wrote:I wonder what Bush will do to try and one-up it.
Hump an intern?

Oh, wait. He'd actually get in trouble for that....

And have to stay up past 8 o'clock.

Actually, I know already. He's wanting Petraeus to come down from the mountain with the words 'THE SURGE IS WORKING' engraved on stone tablets then.

MKSheppard · Post by **MKSheppard** » 2007-09-06 06:03pm

I'll be interested to see if it's just a recycled "best greatest hits" tape, or if Osama actually holds up a recent (within a few months) newspaper to prove he's alive.

Admiral Valdemar · Post by **Admiral Valdemar** » 2007-09-06 06:08pm

"Tonight, infidels, I report to you LIVE from Times Square to prove to you unbelievers that I am still alive..."

But not for much longer, bub.

NeoGoomba · Post by **NeoGoomba** » 2007-09-06 06:11pm

If he said that, Dick Clark would appear in a cloud of smoke and throttle him, cage match style.

It will probably be something like "dear live journal. Mood: PISSED

. Still hating on America for not giving me my credit it Rambo III. I hear they are making a new one. WHERE ARE MY ROYALTIES, STALLONE!?"

Post by **Sea Skimmer** » 2007-09-06 06:39pm

Apparently in still images which have already been released ‘bin laden’ appears with a different color beard and appears to have gained weight, so it’s possible it’s a fraud. Of course, even if it is a fraud, that still doesn’t mean he really is dead.

Einhander Sn0m4n · Post by **Einhander Sn0m4n** » 2007-09-06 07:05pm

SirNitram wrote:I wonder what Bush will do to try and one-up it.

Play it over and over and over over and over and over over and over and over over and over and over over and over and over over and over and over over and over and over, giving Bin Laden the best propaganda distribution network in the world.

Flagg · Post by **Flagg** » 2007-09-06 07:19pm

SirNitram wrote:I wonder what Bush will do to try and one-up it.

He'll point to it as the reason we must stay in Iraq, because Bin Laden will endorse the US getting the fuck out using a sophisticated and little understood manipulation technique called "reverse psychology".

Howedar · Post by **Howedar** » 2007-09-06 07:21pm

I'm loving this massively descriptive thread title.

Anguirus · Post by **Anguirus** » 2007-09-06 08:58pm

"Bin Laden...bin Laden, you're still alive, my old friend?"

"STILL...OLD...FRIEND! You've managed to kill just about everyone else, but like a poor marksman, you keep missing the target!"

Sam Or I · Post by **Sam Or I** » 2007-09-06 09:33pm

Give loose change and every other conspiracy theorist in the world some meat to bite saying he did not commit 9-11, that it was the U.S. governments fault. Imagine the internal investiagtion that would take place. I am sure lots of people would actually believe him.

Flagg · Post by **Flagg** » 2007-09-06 09:39pm

Sam Or I wrote:Give loose change and every other conspiracy theorist in the world some meat to bite saying he did not commit 9-11, that it was the U.S. governments fault. Imagine the internal investiagtion that would take place. I am sure lots of people would actually believe him.

Yeah, for some incredibly retarded reason only fathomable to you Bin Laden will start denying something he's repeatedly taken credit for since the attacks...

Sam Or I · Post by **Sam Or I** » 2007-09-06 10:50pm

Flagg wrote:
Sam Or I wrote:Give loose change and every other conspiracy theorist in the world some meat to bite saying he did not commit 9-11, that it was the U.S. governments fault. Imagine the internal investiagtion that would take place. I am sure lots of people would actually believe him.
Yeah, for some incredibly retarded reason only fathomable to you Bin Laden will start denying something he's repeatedly taken credit for since the attacks...

It was a thought, a hypothetical, nothing serious.

I would just like to see the reaction of the American populace if such a thing happened. How many would believe it, how many would not.

Chardok · Post by **Chardok** » 2007-09-06 10:59pm

Anguirus wrote:"Bin Laden...bin Laden, you're still alive, my old friend?"

"STILL...OLD...FRIEND! You've managed to kill just about everyone else, but like a poor marksman, you keep missing the target!"

And, Straight into the sig with this one.

Patrick Degan · Post by **Patrick Degan** » 2007-09-07 12:35am

MKSheppard wrote:I'll be interested to see if it's just a recycled "best greatest hits" tape, or if Osama actually holds up a recent (within a few months) newspaper to prove he's alive.

If the former's the case, fuck it. I hate clip-show episodes.

SirNitram · Post by **SirNitram** » 2007-09-07 07:58pm

And ABC has a transcript for us.

Link

ABC News' Jonathan Karl, Pierre Thomas, Luis Martinez and Theresa Cook Report: ABC News has obtained a transcript of the latest taped message from the United States' most wanted terrorist, and a senior U.S. intelligence official has confirmed to ABC News that "initial technical analysis suggests the voice on the tape is indeed Osama Bin Laden."

According to the transcript, which can be viewed by clicking here, bin Laden opens with "praise to Allah" and his "law of retaliation" -- "an eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth and the killer is killed."

Bin Laden also spoke to the ongoing situation in Iraq throughout the tape, heavily criticizing the Bush administration.

'One of Your Greatest Mistakes'

He says to the American people, "you made one of your greatest mistakes, in that you neither brought to account nor punished those who waged this war, not even the most violent of its murderers, [former Defense Secretary Donald] Rumsfeld…”

"You permitted Bush to complete his first term, and stranger still, chose him for a second term, which gave him a clear mandate from you -- with your full knowledge and consent -- to continue to murder our people in Iraq and Afghanistan. Then you claim to be innocent! The innocence of yours is like my innocence of the blood of your sons on the 11th -- were I to claim such a thing."

Bin Laden says President Bush's words echo "neoconservatives like Cheney, Rumsfeld, and Richard Perle."

'Democrats Haven't Made a Move'

"People of America: the world is following your news in regards to your invasion of Iraq, for people have recently come to know that, after several years of tragedies of this war, the vast majority of you want it stopped. Thus, you elected the Democratic Party for this purpose, but the Democrats haven't made a move worth mentioning. On the contrary, they continue to agree to the spending of tens of billions to continue the killing and war there."

ABC News Report

The transcript indicates that bin Laden refers to statements from U.S. soldiers in Iraq, from an interview taped by a British journalist. Portions of the interview aired in an exclusive report on ABC News in July, which can be viewed by clicking here.

In the July 16 report, two soldiers with the 2nd Infantry division, Corporal Joshua Lake and Specialist Michael Vassell, spoke candidly about their experiences in Iraq.

"We got grenades going off. We've got an IED blowing up your vehicle. And then you're expected to go back in those four to six, four to five hours and get, and relax to come back out and do another six hours," Lake said. "You don't have time, you just don't have time to do it."

"Because we have people up there in Congress with the brain of a 2-year-old who don't know what they're doing. They don't experience it," Vassell said. "I, I challenge the President or whoever has us here for 15 months to ride along, alongside me. I'll do another 15 months if he comes out here and rides along with me every day for 15 months. I'll do 15 more months. No, I - they don't even have to pay me extra."

'Listen to the Poignant Messages of Your Soldiers'

"It would benefit you to listen to the poignant messages of your soldiers in Iraq, who are paying -- with their blood, nerves and scattered limbs -- the price for these sorts of irresponsible statements,” bin Laden says in reference to the interviews in the ABC News report.

"Among them is the eloquent message of Joshua which he sent by way of the media, in which he wipes the tears from his eyes and describes American politicians in harsh terms and invites them to join him there for a few days," the statement continues.

Ways to Win the War

According to the transcript, bin Laden says there are two ways to end the war:

"The first is from our side, and it is to continue to escalate the killing and fighting against you."

The second is to do away with the American democratic system of government. "It has now become clear to you and the entire world the impotence of the democratic system and how it plays with the interests of the peoples and their blood by sacrificing soldiers and populations to achieve the interests of the major corporations."

Chertoff Responds

Calling the tape "propaganda," Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff told ABC News Thursday afternoon, “Assuming it is an authentic, genuine tape and it's not just a compilation, his being alive would I don't think be a surprise to anybody. I think we would have had some indication if he were not alive.”

"Having a tape issued in connection with the anniversary of 9/11 is also not a big surprise," Chertoff continued. “In the past, Al Qaida has issued tapes in connection with September 11th. It is a big day for them in terms of their view of having had a victory against the United States.”

"So while we're analyzing the details of the tape, I don't think the existence of a tape as such is necessarily significant of an imminent attack or anything of that sort," Chertoff said.

Acknowledging that, "in one sense, they're [al Qaeda] always up to something," Chertoff said that the government does not have any credible evidence that an attack is looming.

Ramblings and Time References

The rambling transcript also mentions French President Nicolas Sarkozy, which suggests the tape was made after Sarkozy's election in May.

While the exact date of the taping cannot be determined by bin Laden's words, he suggests it was made in August by saying, "... just a few days ago, the Japanese observed the 62nd anniversary of the annihilation of Hiroshima and Nagasaki by your nuclear weapons." The anniversary was on Aug. 6.

He goes on to call Noam Chomsky "among one of the most capable of those from your own side," and mentions global warming and "the Kyoto accord."

He also speaks to recent issues grabbing headlines in the United States, referring to "the reeling of many of you under the burden of interest-related debts, insane taxes and real estate mortgages; global warming and its woes..."

"To conclude," bin Laden says, "I invite you to embrace Islam." He goes on to say: "There are no taxes in Islam, but rather there is a limited Zakaat [alms] totaling 2.5 percent."

You'd think someone would clue in to how he's obviously pushing the buttons of those in charge to keep themselves in Iraq.

PainRack · Post by **PainRack** » 2007-09-07 11:37pm

I loved the way they hee-hawed whether OBL is alive and what significance there is in him being alive.

Hey! What about acknowledging that you're supposed to GET this guy? You knoww, all that Death or Alive bullshit you release 6 years ago?

Gil Hamilton · Post by **Gil Hamilton** » 2007-09-07 11:45pm

I loved FAUXNews coverage of it. The newscaster announcing the tape was emphasizing how Bin Laden was talking about how America's contribution to Global Warming and the debt crisis and all that. It was kind of funny.

Starglider · Post by **Starglider** » 2007-09-07 11:52pm

Gil Hamilton wrote:I loved FAUXNews coverage of it. The newscaster announcing the tape was emphasizing how Bin Laden was talking about how America's contribution to Global Warming and the debt crisis and all that. It was kind of funny.

Clearly;
a) Osama is a liberal. He spouts all the same horrible lies about the US of A.
b) This means if we give a single inch of ground to the liberals, THE TERRORISTS WILL HAVE WON.
c) All liberals secretly idolise Osama. They're probably waiting for instructions from him right now. Do you think your neighbours might be... liberals? Ring this hotline number now!

Post by **The Yosemite Bear** » 2007-09-07 11:55pm

MKSheppard wrote:I'll be interested to see if it's just a recycled "best greatest hits" tape, or if Osama actually holds up a recent (within a few months) newspaper to prove he's alive.

how about jamming on guitar with Kurt Cobain and Elvis?

Guardsman Bass · Post by **Guardsman Bass** » 2007-09-08 12:15am

I read the transcript. It was interesting; I've read a lot of his earlier speeches, and this one has a lot of mentioning of American history and events.

I wonder how it will affect Noam Chomsky and Michael Scheuer (both were mentioned by name in the transcript).

Ma Deuce · Post by **Ma Deuce** » 2007-09-08 12:30am

Saw the tape. Might just be me, but that doesn't look like bin Laden: something about the face is...off. And why is his beard suddenly black again?

Post by **The Yosemite Bear** » 2007-09-08 01:54am

nice and easy for fanantics