An act to prohibit certain food establishments from serving food to any person who is obese, based on criteria prescribed by the state department of health; to direct the department to prepare written materials that describe and explain the criteria for determining whether a person is obese and to provide those materials to the food establishments; to direct the department to monitor the food establishments for compliance with the provisions of this act;
Does anyone see anything wrong with a law that makes restraunts function in a MEDICAL capacity? Will we get McDonald's to staff an onsite physician? Will you have a sticker on your driver's license that says if you're obese or not? Will there be the state 'Department of Obesity'? Do people really think Americans are so fucking stupid that unless told otherwise we will eat ourselves to death? I suppose mandatory bath time is next.
P.S. Good lucking to all the Waffle Houses which will have to deny service to law enforcement under this law. They aren't ALL healthy, you know.
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I hope they have fun trying to enforce that if it ever gets off the drafting board. I'm sure it's not as if they couldn't use those resources in a better fashion or anything.
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Here's something else to consider: If you are having restraunts perform a medical procedure (like calculating a person's Body Mass Index) then they would be required to carry MEDICAL MALPRACTICE INSURANCE.
Also, this law removes a person's individual accountability for health, so that insurance won't stay cheap for long.
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Why not just tax the food places that facilitate people becoming fat? That would be more enforceable, aim at the source of the problem, and generate a source of revenue.
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Taxing fat people and the places they eat at is okay.
But denying a fat person foods? A bit extreme therapy methinks.
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"Making it illegal for fat people to eat at McDonalds", whilst as amusing as hell, has about zero chance of being held constitutional, and is one of the most pointless abuses of government power I've ever seen. Speaking of which, Mississippi's state government is Republican, right? Because this spits in the face of the entire party's nominal principles, making it more ironic.
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On a non-serious note, there's a much simpler solution. Make the door about 2' wide, and if the fat-asses can't squeeze through the door, they can't get their food.
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The Duchess of Zeon wrote:Speaking of which, Mississippi's state government is Republican, right? Because this spits in the face of the entire party's nominal principles, making it more ironic.
Actually, the state House is controlled by Democrats, and Republicans have only a small lead in the Senate, AFAIK. Mississippi is one of those states which has never quite been able to forgive the Republican Party for Abraham Lincoln.
That said, I would say that it's a fair bet that those Democrats are in fact fairly conservative, but I don't really know about that either way.
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Hahahahaha! This is the most brilliantly horrible idea I've seen in a while. This is SERIOUSLY unconstitutional, but I think it's hilarious. Just have the state tax obesity, or restaurants that serve horribly unhealthy food--there's no reason you have to actually deny people service at any price.
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CaptainChewbacca wrote:Does anyone see anything wrong with a law that makes restraunts function in a MEDICAL capacity?
I suppose requiring certain hygenic standards and food safety regulations are too medical for restaurants?
CaptainChewbacca wrote:Do people really think Americans are so fucking stupid that unless told otherwise we will eat ourselves to death?
That's exactly what's already happening. The top cause of death is heart disease.
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An act to prohibit certain food establishments from serving food to any person who is obese, based on criteria prescribed by the state department of health; to direct the department to prepare written materials that describe and explain the criteria for determining whether a person is obese and to provide those materials to the food establishments; to direct the department to monitor the food establishments for compliance with the provisions of this act;
While I think it's ridiculous and hard to enforce, what's the difference between this law and laws which forbid the sale of alcohol to patrons who are obviously drunk? It seems to me that all you would have to do is educate the employees about what "obese" is, post signs, and then see what happens. I don't think it would work, mind you, but it's an interesting concept.
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An act to prohibit certain food establishments from serving food to any person who is obese, based on criteria prescribed by the state department of health; to direct the department to prepare written materials that describe and explain the criteria for determining whether a person is obese and to provide those materials to the food establishments; to direct the department to monitor the food establishments for compliance with the provisions of this act;
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...Do people really think Americans are so fucking stupid that unless told otherwise we will eat ourselves to death?...
...too easy.
Seriously though, this law's riddled with problems. Could the fatties sue for discrimination? Because if they can then your average burger flipper would need to know the exact metrics for determining if someone is obese because they'd be open to a lawsuit if they got it wrong.
Unless they're going to have someone measure body fat %, they'd need to measure weight and height and use BMI, which would spell the end of Big Macs for body builders.
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While I think it's ridiculous and hard to enforce, what's the difference between this law and laws which forbid the sale of alcohol to patrons who are obviously drunk?
Being too fat harms nobody but yourself. Being too drunk actually has potential to actually harm others.
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Kodiak wrote:While I think it's ridiculous and hard to enforce, what's the difference between this law and laws which forbid the sale of alcohol to patrons who are obviously drunk?
Here's a few:
- Alcohol isn't a necessity, while food -- even food of questionable nutritional value -- is.
- There is a social responsibility of establishments serving alcoholic beverages to protect the rest of us. Drunk people do stupid things at a much greater rate than non-drunk people, and these things tend to happen immediately (as opposed to the harm which comes from obesity, which takes months or years to cause harm to society).
- Drunkenness is a transitory condition; the mere passage of a few hours will make the drunk no longer barred from making this sort of purchase.
There might be more, but these are the ones that first occur to me.
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It seems to me if a woman went out on a date (or an anniversary dinner) and was told in the front of the restraunt she was too obese to be served, it might destroy her soul.
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Sidewinder wrote: If the authors of this bill were serious about fighting obesity, wouldn't it make more sense to make liposuctions or other treatments tax deductable?
These guys should remember that even in a fascist or communist state, the government's power has limits.
I don't think liposuction is the way to solve the problem, but doing things like subsidizing health clubs and gyms would make sense, or taxing restaurants that do not mark a certain number of their dishes as "low-calorie" (and then defining that standard) could help.
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Master of Ossus wrote:I don't think liposuction is the way to solve the problem, but doing things like subsidizing health clubs and gyms would make sense, or taxing restaurants that do not mark a certain number of their dishes as "low-calorie" (and then defining that standard) could help.
This has to be a better solution than just using liposuction. The problem must be addressed at its source, not after the fact. Sure, liposuction might be an answer for some people, but who is to say they just won't return to eating unhealthy foods? Not to mention the costs and potential dangers and surgery carries. Exercise is key, as is making good food choices.
If they really wanted to accomplish the goal of keeping monstro-humans from dining out, all they have to do is pass a law mandating that restaurants install narrower doors.
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Darth Wong wrote:If they really wanted to accomplish the goal of keeping monstro-humans from dining out, all they have to do is pass a law mandating that restaurants install narrower doors.
The only problem I can see with that is how to get large equipment - tables, ovens, etc - into the restaurant in the first place. Maybe make it illegal for restaurants to allow customers in through a "service entrance", which would be allowed to be of larger size?
Darth Wong wrote:If they really wanted to accomplish the goal of keeping monstro-humans from dining out, all they have to do is pass a law mandating that restaurants install narrower doors.
The only problem I can see with that is how to get large equipment - tables, ovens, etc - into the restaurant in the first place. Maybe make it illegal for restaurants to allow customers in through a "service entrance", which would be allowed to be of larger size?
Good thinking. Gotta close up the gaps or the fattys find a loophole.... and eat it.
Molyneux wrote:The only problem I can see with that is how to get large equipment - tables, ovens, etc - into the restaurant in the first place. Maybe make it illegal for restaurants to allow customers in through a "service entrance", which would be allowed to be of larger size?
I don't think I've ever seen a restaurant that allowed people to enter through the service entrance. It's usually an employees only area.
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CaptainChewbacca wrote:Also, I'm sure a 2-foot doorway would violate handicapped access laws.
The real thing is that it's gotta be a fire hazard. It would be pretty funny, though, watching someone who was struggling to wiggle through it in an effort to get to the buffet table inside.
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A bit extreme therapy methinks.
If the authors of this bill were serious about fighting obesity, wouldn't it make more sense to make liposuctions or other treatments tax deductable?
