Hillary has launched a site extolling, of all things suprising, the merits of a superdelegate (now called an automatic delegate) to vote whichever way they want. IE, for her, and also about the florida and michigan situation, and so on. It's not big news, just one more tool in the woodshed, but I'm really not terribly excited to see it so blatant, and that among her entries is a link to CBS and the 700 club supporting her. The last FACT is a pretty telling one, but the first FACT seems to imply they may still be thinking of sucking the voted-for pledged delegates over. And I sick of FACT LISTs. They remind me of creationshits. Typo unintentional but retained.
Five Facts about Democratic Delegates
FACT: Pledged delegates and automatic delegates are the same - they each count for ONE vote.
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FACT: Neither candidate can secure the nomination without automatic delegates.
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FACT: Automatic delegates are expected to exercise their best judgment in the interests of the nation and the Democratic Party.
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FACT: Florida and Michigan should count, both in the interest of fundamental fairness and honoring the spirit of the Democrats' 50-state strategy.
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FACT: There is a clear path to an overall delegate majority (pledged + automatic) for Hillary Clinton after all states have voted -- with or without Florida and Michigan.
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MKSheppard wrote:Go hillary, splinter the Democrat party!
Yes, please do this, you miserable old cunt.
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Edi wrote:If you have nothing but no-content shit that only amounts to +1 posts, do not post.
I'm sorry; but what do you expect us to respond to this latest thing with? Erudite multi-paragraph talk about the possibilities?
Hillary's simply fucked, and if she tries to push this further, there's a possibility she can splinter the party badly.
"If scientists and inventors who develop disease cures and useful technologies don't get lifetime royalties, I'd like to know what fucking rationale you have for some guy getting lifetime royalties for writing an episode of Full House." - Mike Wong
"The present air situation in the Pacific is entirely the result of fighting a fifth rate air power." - U.S. Navy Memo - 24 July 1944
I think it's interesting that they never deviate even one step outside the boundaries of the "typical political combat style." As if the thought of thinking outside the box and trying something new doesn't even exist for them.
Flagg wrote:"Automatic delegates" my ass. Welcome to the Karl Rove school of campaigning.
Next time either one of her top advisors or her makes it on to a television program, they need to have the host publicly correct them for using this term.
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Flagg wrote:"Automatic delegates" my ass. Welcome to the Karl Rove school of campaigning.
Next time either one of her top advisors or her makes it on to a television program, they need to have the host publicly correct them for using this term.
Yeah, right. The same way they publicly correct everyone who uses the term "War on Terror", right? That'll be the day.
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They're pissing up a rope. The only way the superdelegates throw the election to Clinton is if Clinton closes the gap in pledged delegates, and to do that she needs to run the table with landslides. If she does that, it means Obama fucked up so badly Clinton deserves the nomination anyway.
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That Mark Penn still believes this is feasible is another scrap of evidence in the growing pile 'Mark Penn Can't Do Basic Maths', part of the larger, collection of piles, whose overall reality is 'Mark Penn Is Useless'. I don't believe he's been attached to a contested election where his client won in a decade or more.
That he keeps getting hired is just one of those truly amazing things in the universe, and is a symptom of the DLC rot. And here we stand, watching the DLC-faction go up against the DNC-faction. And Obama and the other grassroots, run-in-every-state, don't-be-Republican-Lite crowd are winning, not just against Hillary, but drawing huge crowds.
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SirNitram wrote:That Mark Penn still believes this is feasible is another scrap of evidence in the growing pile 'Mark Penn Can't Do Basic Maths', part of the larger, collection of piles, whose overall reality is 'Mark Penn Is Useless'. I don't believe he's been attached to a contested election where his client won in a decade or more.
That he keeps getting hired is just one of those truly amazing things in the universe, and is a symptom of the DLC rot. And here we stand, watching the DLC-faction go up against the DNC-faction. And Obama and the other grassroots, run-in-every-state, don't-be-Republican-Lite crowd are winning, not just against Hillary, but drawing huge crowds.
It's the connections he's able to make, not his competence, that everyone loves.
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Did anybody else see Hillary equating Obama's recent tactics with 'something right out of Karl Rove's playbook' or something like that. I know it was on Countdown last night, but I missed it. Oh well, so much for the 'I respect Barack Obama' thing from the end of the last debate.
And more on point, that site's subheading is "Facts and Myths about the Race for Delegates in the Democratic Nomination". This whole business sounds more Swiftboaty than anything anyone else has released thus far in the campaign....
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